• Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      Yep, Hexbear defederated from Blahaj because Blahaj accused Hexbear’s trans users of “faking transness” and Blahaj defended chasers. I’m not trans, I’m not in any position to tell Hexbear’s trans users what they should or shouldn’t be offended by, but it seems like a reasonable reason to defederate from blahaj to me.

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        Blahaj accused Hexbear’s trans users of “faking transness”

        You put quotes there as if you’re actually quoting someone (the admin, a moderator?); but I generally remember the drama around hex-blahaj defederation, and absolutely do not remember this part. It is also not mentioned in the links you provide elsewhere ITT.

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            No it didn’t. The thread you linked is from January 2024, whereas Hexbear defederated from Blahaj already in August 2023. Even one of the comments there says “Is also deeply offended by hexbear just existing even though they defederated months ago”.

            Are you lying or just don’t care to double-check your accusations?

            I’d also point out that it’s literally just one user’s comments, which are now deleted by Blahaj mods, and not an actual admin’s or mod’s comments. Hardly relevant to characterising a whole large instance.

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              My memory on that detail was off, I was there when it happened but its been months. I’m not “hiding,” you pointed out what actually happened, what’s to talk about? There’s still the defense of chasers and the general hostility towards Hexbear users, so simply saying “blahaj had issues with Hexbear” is still a one-sided take.

              Happy?

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                I’m not “hiding,”

                In my previous comment I asked you if you’re lying or just didn’t bother to double-check. You made no response, and I would describe that as “hiding”.

                It’s the most serious accusation against Blahaj that you’ve posted, not a mere “detail”, so admitting that you were completely wrong about it is a fair thing to expect. (Note that you’re also defending a sub that would verbally slaughter anyone who would post such false accusations against them.) Not much more has to be talked about, sure, regarding that part of the story.

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          Yep, Hexbear had an issue with Blahaj, not the reverse. Not sure defending accusations of false trans-identity and chasers is the hill you want to die on.

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                  I still think it was wrong of some of Blahaj’s mods to attack Hexbear’s trans users by questioning the validity of their identity, and consider that transphobic. I don’t think everyone on Blahaj is evil or transphobic or anything, but I do believe those individual actions to have been bad and should’ve been called out by Blahaj’s other moderators and Ada. Same with the Chaser bit, some trans people were fine, and others absolutely weren’t, and rather than taking the side of the ones who felt it was problematic, they were shut down and silenced.

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            This is the post defending chasers.

            lmao

            Whether you believe it to be defense of chasers or not

            “We believe something that’s not real, therefore, you should treat us as arguing in good faith”

            Keep accusing the most pro-LGBT instance on the Fediverse of tolerating transphobia, it definitely doesn’t betray your total disdain of LGBT folk.

            Additionally, calling me a fascist is childish, insulting, and wrong.

            You’re a defender of nationalist capital accumulation in the hands of billionaires under an anti-democratic and genocidal regime that openly oppresses LGBT folk, while cheerleading the arrest and murder of dissidents.

            You’re a fascist. Sorry that the truth hurts your feelings.

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              “We believe something that’s not real, therefore, you should treat us as arguing in good faith”

              Keep accusing the most pro-LGBT instance on the Fediverse of tolerating transphobia, it definitely doesn’t betray your total disdain of LGBT folk.

              Mind pointing out why you believe it’s perfectly fine to call trans people “faking it for internet clout and sympathy points?” Because I’ll note that that’s your official stance, as well as the stance that invalidating someone’s gender for sexual gratification is okay and not chasing. I’ll keep note of you as “transphobia defender.”

              You can critique Blahaj.zone’s moderation without attacking their userbase.

              Whether you like it or not, Hexbear has one of the largest and most active trans spaces on Lemmy, so their voices are valid too.

              You’re a defender of nationalist capital accumulation in the hands of billionaires under an anti-democratic and genocidal regime that openly oppresses LGBT folk, while cheerleading the arrest and murder of dissidents.

              Where, exactly? I thought you were the NATO stan and transphobia defender?

              You’re a fascist. Sorry that the truth hurts your feelings.

              You openly admitted to being against the Black Panthers and Pro-Nato, and have defended transphobia. It seems more like projection.