Donald Trump is proving he’s racist and stupid with his latest post.
In a Truth Social post Thursday morning, Donald Trump appeared to suggest, again, that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris isn’t really Black, ramping up his identity-based attacks to the horror of those in his party who consider racism a losing electoral strategy.
Earlier in the week, many GOP strategists, including in the Trump camp, worried that attacks on Harris’s race and gender—which seemed all but inevitable considering Trump’s history of racism and misogyny—would pose a serious liability for the campaign. “We hope he doesn’t act like a crazy racist and sexist person, but we can’t control him,” a source close to the campaign told The Washington Post.
These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”
Okay I’m starting to really believe that trump was a puppet carefully managed since the 2016 election that slowly fell apart as he actually got power and became president and fired literally everyone who didn’t lick his boots. Seriously almost forgot how almost all of the news for like a year was like, some tweets and trump fires someone or attacks them (the latter never stops) I digress
He is so clearly floundering for the first time. This fucker has never had bad press until now. He isn’t different or anything, just suddenly some people are realizing and agree the emperor isn’t wearing clothes. That cost him so much powerful support. I speculate the evangical Republicans, who are still a major contribution to conservative politics today, are withdrawing their resources and efforts this election cycle to regroup and plan how to handle the next 2 years to the best of their advantage.
Well, no. He’s been floundering since he fucked up COVID. That was something he could bluster his way through. Republicans could see their friends and family dying.
That’s why he lost. He’s bad at being president. Plus old and weird.
I disagree strongly. He lost a lot of support but he did not lose support on this level, with this tone. It’s like the ones who were scared to say a single critical word are now scared to say a single supportive word. He is a political leper
When he lost 2020 and fucked up his image beyond repair. The insurrection and being twice impeached and losing court case after court case both with the election fruad, stormy daniels, and all other smaller charges that I may not know or recall. He is losing face and he was abandoned by the family. I truly believe he lost the support of religious/evangical leaders and that’s the big reason attitudes are changing.
Of course this is all opinion and based on my experiences and how I perceive them. I wonder though if anyone else has had ties to people who consumed like… Christian media and what sort of changes they have seen in attitudes toward trump this year vs last year.
How many conservatives do you know that admit the severity of covid after the fact, even after losing loved ones?
Their heads are firmly buried in the sand. It’s a non-factor of that voting demographic.
I know several people that sort of leaned moderate republican that are now just democrats. It really depends on their news
I have a conservative friend whose father died from covid which absolutely devistated her. She’s from a small rural town she used to love but cannot stand it anymore because everyone she knew there was like “god’s plan” blablabla without offering any real sympathy. So there are a few running around out there, but by far the minority.
My sister is adamant my dad didn’t die of covid despite you know, getting covid and dying in the hospital a few days later. And the death certificate states the cause of death as Covid. Oh, he most likely caught it in her bar which she reopened as soon as the WI supreme court ruled that lock down doesn’t apply to bars.
A better way to put it is that he’s stuck on defense for the first time. His usual tactic is to lash out at anyone that attacks him to force them on defense. Swapping candidates put him completely off balance. His attacks aren’t landing and only make his position worse.
The Sarah Palin gambit blew up in their face again.
More “Haphazardly guided by fox news” but yeah.
Is Kamala isn’t black, why does trump hate her so hard?
Woman.
Here’s what I don’t get, regardless of if your black or indian, if you grew up in america with dark skin you likely have faced all the same struggles that any black voter would care about.
So even if he was right (he’s not, he’s what physicists would call “not even wrong”), so what? Are racists any less racist to indians than african americans?
I don’t get the playbook here, non-racists would just be confused and racists would still be racists.
I think he’s thinking it’ll go something like:
Potential black voters in swing states: “Kamala is half Indian?? Hell no, I’m not voting for her! As everyone knows, all people are racist pieces of shit towards anyone who doesn’t align exactly with the ethnicity they are, so I’m staying home!”
Here’s what I don’t get, regardless of if your black or indian, if you grew up in america with dark skin you likely have faced all the same struggles that any black voter would care about.
No, that’s very much not true, except maybe on a very superficial “some bigot called me a slur” kind of level. Indian-Americans are disproportionately wealthy and highly-educated; African-Americans are disproportionately the opposite. African-Americans have been subjected to institutional racism for centuries that is still ongoing because of the extreme wealth disparities it created (e.g. even after theoretically abolishing redlining decades ago, houses in black neighborhoods still don’t appreciate in value at the same rate ones in white neighborhoods do… except when the neighborhood gentrifies and forces the black people out). Meanwhile, the bulk of Indian-Americans arrived after the Civil Rights Act, Fair Housing Act, etc. and had the means and opportunity to move straight into middle-class white neighborhoods and assimilate.
That’s not to say that Indian-Americans don’t face “struggles:” discrimination against Indian-American tech workers in particular is definitely a thing, especially motivated by a “the H1-Bs turk err jerbs” sentiment. (Meanwhile, Black engineers are treated either normally or at worst, as a curiosity, because there are so few of them to begin with. Pop quiz: why are there so few of them to begin with…?)
So, no: while it’s true that all minorities are subject to discrimination, the type and extent of that discrimination varies greatly between different minority groups. The struggles are not the same.
Getting back to the real question you asked: the reason Trump wants to treat Harris as Indian, not Black, is to try to delegitimatize her in the eyes of Black voters as being some kind of elite that doesn’t actually understand their struggle.
Huh, very valid points. I guess I was assuming casual racism that would come from only appearances and assumptions. But you are right that economic class heavily impacts the discrimination a person faces and that’s specifically where african americans have been hit the hardest historically.
Thanks for providing more context.
Valid points indeed, but I think this strategy might not work in his favor, because anyone who had to endure any kind of racial discrimination based on something like skin color will be offended by these attacks. The old white man simply doesn’t have any legitimacy to comment on someone being too black or not black enough. It’s disgusting and weird.
It won’t. He only understands racism from a white perspective and is trying to apply that elsewhere, which is why it’s extra ridiculous.
I suspect Trump is not really orange. I think he is white and he paints himself orange. I don’t know why he’d do that, but it is very, very weird.
Orangeface should really be something of the past.
So, I think some people make skin color such an issue because it’s important to them. People don’t like Harris just because she’s black. Harris is a competent, smart and reasonable politician, that’s why people like her.
I think subconsciously Trump is just picking up on the fact that if he wasn’t white, he wouldn’t be a leader of the white supremacist type movement. Harris has mass appeal, she’s not just popular with a single type of person, and not just because she’s black or Indian. What a non-issue and a distraction
One of the Trump people I know said Kamala Harris changed ethnicities depending on what audience she is in front of.
I would push back on that next time you hear it with… well of course you would. If you have something in common with someone their interested in then why wouldn’t you talk about that aspect about yourself? It’s just sharing a common ground, if an Indian host pointed out her Indian heritage then blurting out I’m half black is just…weird.
A good example for them: if you’re a NASCAR driver and you’re being interviewed on the track, you don’t start talking about your truck.
Yeah I don’t think it’s that big a deal. Especially if people already know she’s half Indian and half black. I wasn’t gonna push my political opinions because I don’t want this person to think of me any different and not a dirty little commie liberal.
Definitely understandable and your choice if you want to put yourself out there like that to be judged. I tend to focus more on political leanings with family since it’s more my area of effectiveness. I will say though, that the more exposure to “dirty little commie liberal” ideals they see, the more it might seem like not such a far-out there idea.
What if … maybe he got Harris mixed up with Nikki Haley? He got Haley and Pelosi mixed up before, and Haley was his most recent opponent, in the primaries. So it wouldn’t be surprising he would say, “But she was always Indian before” if he was confused by the interviewers referring to Harris as Black while he was thinking of Haley. But he can’t admit that so he has to double down.
That thought just now popped into my mind.
I think he desperately doesn’t want her to get the black vote, so he’s trying to say to everyone that she’s not black. It’s not going to work and it just makes him look like an idiot and bigot. *Also half black Obama was black enough [pops popcorn].
so he’s trying to say to everyone that she’s not black.
God damn it, what weird timeline this is.
Let’s say for a second hypothetically that Kamala is just Indian but still calls herself black. Do we all for a second think that the black community would just be fine with some old rich white dude policing their identity anyways?
Well, if we are playing this straight, he didnt even answer the question he was given. They were asking him about why black people should vote for him, and he responds that Kamala is actually Indian.
I know he normally talks like this, but come on thats absurd right?
Downright weird if you think about it.
“As you can see, my opponent is a total fraud.
She even changed her name from Nikki to Kamala”
It doesnt matter. Every Trumpet in my office is eating this up. I pulled up a picture of her Jamaican dad. Their answer was “Jamaicans aren’t black.” I really dont know how to respond to that.
There are cultural differences between Afro-Caribbean people and “black” (ADOS) Americans. The trump fans might be trying to use that to drive a wedge in the Democratic Party.
But that’s like the difference between Scottish and Irish people. They are basically the same in English history, lesser people to be conquered. Meaningless when it comes to racism.
I don’t know that many MAGA folks with that nuanced a view of race.
Yeah I was worried I’d sound insensitive by posting that. But honestly, to this specific group, I want to just say O now skin color doesn’t matter.
Other notable Jamaicans: Bob Marley, Usain Bolt, Grace Jones. I suppose your coworkers would say they’re not black either?
The sky is yellow if it upsets a lib
And they’d piss straight up just to turn that sky yellow
They won’t be black until they try to enter the US. At which point they’ll be angry violent blacks coming for American jobs, even if they’re only on vacation.
Go to google maps, get them to select a random street view in Jamaica. Ask them to describe the people they’re seeing.
…dafuq??
The die-hard Trumpets are a lost cause. But stuff like this should hopefully start to peel away the other people that he actually needs in order to win.
Yeah, I don’t really see it helping, the people who belive him aren’t less likely to vote for someone that isn’t black. There’s no trumpers saying ‘oh I really.wanted a black woman as president, guess I’ll have to vote the racist guy instead’
Which is a complete waste of time on Trump’s part. She’s visibly not white AND a woman, so them not voting for her is built-in. It only has the potential to lose him some edge case voters, not gain any.
He’s weird.
These hopes were quickly dashed in the course of Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists Wednesday afternoon, in which the candidate claimed that, for years, Vice President Kamala Harris “was Indian all the way, and then suddenly she made a turn and she became a Black person.”
Oh, so Trump is accusing her of what he is guilty of. He would change his ethnicity from Swedish to Irish to German depending on who was around.
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Recently, a major topic of discussion has been how fast the Democratic campaign went from weak to enthusiastic.
Stories like this one remind me how fast the Trump campaign went from scary to amusingly pathetic.
Fascism exemplifies being both scary and pathetic.
Raccoons are much smaller than me. But I would be hesitant to corner one. Never underestimate the destructive capabilities of someone with poor priorities.
Good point. I know better than to let my guard down completely, but I’m less concerned about him than I used to be. It feels good.
If being half Black means you cannot be Black, then Obama was a White man.
The racists are trying to appeal to both black and white voters here. They used to say that things like:
“What do you get when you mix clean water with dirty water?”
“Dirty water”
Now they’re saying that people of mixed heritage aren’t anything. That they’re the Other.
Harris grew up in Oakland in a Black neighborhood. As usual the racists are cruel but here they’re spreading an obvious lie designed to erode her standing among black voters
Can’t have mixed people, they might break the whole divide and conquer thing that they’ve perfected in the last little while.
I hope she gets one of those “black jobs”…like President.
Don’t beat them with their own arguments! It just confuses them…
