The reports from the British colonial forces are clear. The Isrealis pushed the British out and attacked the Palestinians.
And you don’t get to occupy someone for 70 years, refuse them rights, refuse to let them have a state, or properly annex them, and then be surprised they want to kill you. This is like Hitler calling the Warsaw Ghetto Jews the violent ones.
That’s not true. The British were given the responsibility to rule the region until it could govern itself. The evil Jews didn’t force them out and then attack the Arabs.
The British left of their own will and then there was a war which the Arab coalition had much more manpower in but they still lost. They were occupied so much as they wanted all the land for themselves and to kill all the Jews which is why they started that war thinking it would be an easy victory with backing from all their other Arab allies. They were wrong and lost only got to keep what land they could hang on to in that war and have been crying genocide and occupation ever since despite starting the majority of all conflicts between themselves and the Israelis. As for the lie about Israelis being mostly random foreigners from far away taking the poor Palestinians’ land away boohoo. The original Israeli military was largely an amalgamation of the militias of various Jewish tribes that had lived in the region under all the same rulers as the so called Palestinians had.
Bottomline you don’t get to start multiple wars with a nation and then cry abuse when you lose all of them, even the ones you thought would be easy wins.
And you don’t get to occupy someone for 70 years, refuse them rights, refuse to let them have a state, or properly annex them, and then be surprised they want to kill you.
Arab Israelis have the same rights as any other Israeli citizen and they even serve in the Israeli knesset and have their own Arab political parties there. Meanwhile there are no Jewish Palestinians to speak of given that Hamas and the Palestinian Authority would kill them for openly practicing their religion.
As for having a state, I wasn’t aware that every sovereign nation needed Israel’s permission to declare and enforce their own sovereignty. Lol. The fact is there are also plenty of other countries that don’t recognize Palestine as a sovereign state and even if you want to frankly how can you? Right now it’s broken into two regions with two separate governments. Even if the Israelis were to magically all disappear there would just be another war between the various groups of Palestinian Arabs with Hamas likely coming out as the victor and creating another terror organization run, violently oppressive failed state not dissimilar to Taliban ruled Afghanistan which is a nother state that many countries choose not to formally recognize.
As for not annexing them properly, you once again forget history. The Jordanians allowed the Palestinians into their country at one point and as thanks for their generosity, the PLO assassinated their king and tried to take over Jordan. Besides all the aforementioned conflicts they started with Israel, attacking and attempting to take over your own allied country when it gives you refuge doesn’t exactly inspire trust and as a result for a while the Jordanians had better relations with the Israelis than the Palestinians, despite being majority Arab-Muslims. So after they pulled a fiasco like that why would Israel attempt to annex and integrate the Palestinians instead of doing what it does now and requiring them to apply for naturalization and go through their normal vetting process if they want to become Israeli citizens?
Oh wow that is a lot, it’s going to take some time to read through that. Especially since we’re starting off by jumping straight into the racist colonial ideology deep end. The British just had to take control of the area because the locals weren’t capable of governance. A tale told in literally every colony state ever and as false in all of them.
Saying the British left of their free will is hilarious. They left of their own free will in the American Colonies too. It’s okay we can let them keep some dignity right? It’s not like they left after a major terror campaign or anything.
And the Locals wanted the settlers from the colonialist regime gone too? Oh wow that’s like super evil.
And now you’re going to tell us they’re different conflicts. The Israelis have never stopped committing acts of war. It’s all the same conflict.
The Israeli “militias” were absolutely comprised of settlers. The main pro settler organization was buying the supplies. They were unapologetically Zionist from their founding in 1939.
The Palestinians in the occupied area haven’t started a dang thing. They’ve been reacting since the British took it upon themselves to play colony with them.
Arab Israelis live a separate but equal life. They have the same rights in the exact same way Black Americans did. Just with less official rules to point at.
And yeah you kind of need Israel’s permission when they actively prevent elections, and assassinate government officials at will. It’s okay though, Gaza didn’t need a head doctor for their hospital system.
Hamas and Fatah are actually in the middle of historic talks right now. And they had a peaceful election until Israel intervened.
The PLO is not responsible for Israel keeping the West Bank and Gaza in limbo. There is no carve out for, “they look mean”. You either annex them or go home and now days even annexation is going to require a majority vote. That ship sailed around the 1970’s.
For all the “woe is me” and “all Palestinians are terrorists responsible for everything bad” propaganda here, just stop. This narrative is fucking tired. We have the Internet now. We have cameras. We have data, and memories. This isn’t the 1980’s when you’d get a single news paper article as the information source. You can’t contain this and you can’t lie your way out of it anymore.
The reports from the British colonial forces are clear. The Isrealis pushed the British out and attacked the Palestinians.
And you don’t get to occupy someone for 70 years, refuse them rights, refuse to let them have a state, or properly annex them, and then be surprised they want to kill you. This is like Hitler calling the Warsaw Ghetto Jews the violent ones.
That’s not true. The British were given the responsibility to rule the region until it could govern itself. The evil Jews didn’t force them out and then attack the Arabs.
The British left of their own will and then there was a war which the Arab coalition had much more manpower in but they still lost. They were occupied so much as they wanted all the land for themselves and to kill all the Jews which is why they started that war thinking it would be an easy victory with backing from all their other Arab allies. They were wrong and lost only got to keep what land they could hang on to in that war and have been crying genocide and occupation ever since despite starting the majority of all conflicts between themselves and the Israelis. As for the lie about Israelis being mostly random foreigners from far away taking the poor Palestinians’ land away boohoo. The original Israeli military was largely an amalgamation of the militias of various Jewish tribes that had lived in the region under all the same rulers as the so called Palestinians had.
Bottomline you don’t get to start multiple wars with a nation and then cry abuse when you lose all of them, even the ones you thought would be easy wins.
Arab Israelis have the same rights as any other Israeli citizen and they even serve in the Israeli knesset and have their own Arab political parties there. Meanwhile there are no Jewish Palestinians to speak of given that Hamas and the Palestinian Authority would kill them for openly practicing their religion.
As for having a state, I wasn’t aware that every sovereign nation needed Israel’s permission to declare and enforce their own sovereignty. Lol. The fact is there are also plenty of other countries that don’t recognize Palestine as a sovereign state and even if you want to frankly how can you? Right now it’s broken into two regions with two separate governments. Even if the Israelis were to magically all disappear there would just be another war between the various groups of Palestinian Arabs with Hamas likely coming out as the victor and creating another terror organization run, violently oppressive failed state not dissimilar to Taliban ruled Afghanistan which is a nother state that many countries choose not to formally recognize.
As for not annexing them properly, you once again forget history. The Jordanians allowed the Palestinians into their country at one point and as thanks for their generosity, the PLO assassinated their king and tried to take over Jordan. Besides all the aforementioned conflicts they started with Israel, attacking and attempting to take over your own allied country when it gives you refuge doesn’t exactly inspire trust and as a result for a while the Jordanians had better relations with the Israelis than the Palestinians, despite being majority Arab-Muslims. So after they pulled a fiasco like that why would Israel attempt to annex and integrate the Palestinians instead of doing what it does now and requiring them to apply for naturalization and go through their normal vetting process if they want to become Israeli citizens?
Oh wow that is a lot, it’s going to take some time to read through that. Especially since we’re starting off by jumping straight into the racist colonial ideology deep end. The British just had to take control of the area because the locals weren’t capable of governance. A tale told in literally every colony state ever and as false in all of them.
Saying the British left of their free will is hilarious. They left of their own free will in the American Colonies too. It’s okay we can let them keep some dignity right? It’s not like they left after a major terror campaign or anything.
And the Locals wanted the settlers from the colonialist regime gone too? Oh wow that’s like super evil.
And now you’re going to tell us they’re different conflicts. The Israelis have never stopped committing acts of war. It’s all the same conflict.
The Israeli “militias” were absolutely comprised of settlers. The main pro settler organization was buying the supplies. They were unapologetically Zionist from their founding in 1939.
The Palestinians in the occupied area haven’t started a dang thing. They’ve been reacting since the British took it upon themselves to play colony with them.
Arab Israelis live a separate but equal life. They have the same rights in the exact same way Black Americans did. Just with less official rules to point at.
And yeah you kind of need Israel’s permission when they actively prevent elections, and assassinate government officials at will. It’s okay though, Gaza didn’t need a head doctor for their hospital system.
Hamas and Fatah are actually in the middle of historic talks right now. And they had a peaceful election until Israel intervened.
The PLO is not responsible for Israel keeping the West Bank and Gaza in limbo. There is no carve out for, “they look mean”. You either annex them or go home and now days even annexation is going to require a majority vote. That ship sailed around the 1970’s.
For all the “woe is me” and “all Palestinians are terrorists responsible for everything bad” propaganda here, just stop. This narrative is fucking tired. We have the Internet now. We have cameras. We have data, and memories. This isn’t the 1980’s when you’d get a single news paper article as the information source. You can’t contain this and you can’t lie your way out of it anymore.