• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    Everyone rational has always believed this. The government of Israel is not the Jewish people any more than the government of ISIS was representative of Muslims.

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      Everyone rational has always believed this.

      By openly identifying your endorsement of an ancient and false antisemitic trope, you’ve invalidated your right to have any opinion about anything.

      Bye.

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        You can wail and gnash your teeth all you want. The government of Israel will never represent Judaism.

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          Did you mean to reply to my comment? Not sure how that’s relevant.

          Anyway, you endorse a 1,500 year old antisemitic conspiracy theory, so I’m not sure why you think you deserve to be treated with respect or dignity.

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            If saying the government of Israel is not all of Judaism is blood libel then everything is blood libel and the label is meaningless.

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              Just to be clear then:

              Are you claiming that the Jewish governing party, made up of Jewish individuals, in the Jewish State (Israel) are incapable of holding back their bloodlust to slaughter non-Jewish children on the basis that they see them as lesser than Jewish children?

              Take a moment. Think about it. Because we both know that this is in fact what you have been claiming. And maybe you want to walk that back, and self-reflect, and think whether maybe you’ve gone wrong at some point in your justifiable attempt to seek justice for oppressed peoples.

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                At the point they’re publicly calling those kids names while bombing them… Yes it’s pretty clear they believe Palestinians are subhuman. And if that’s blood libel then so is saying Hitler believed Jews to be sub human

                You cannot have it both ways. You cannot commit genocide and tell the world they’re the racists because they called you out.

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                  At the point they’re publicly

                  Who is the ‘they’ speaking about non-Jewish children?

                  Yes it’s pretty clear they believe Palestinians are subhuman. And if that’s blood libel then so is saying Hitler believed Jews to be sub human

                  Holocaust inversion = Holocaust denial.

                  6 million Jews were slaughtered in the Holocaust.

                  6 million.

                  But clearly the right parallel here is the war in Gaza, begun by Iran/Hamas, but it’s the Jewish state that’s at fault.

                  And you’re really confident that this time your attack against the Jewish state will be viewed favourably in the future.

                  Okay. Bold move.

                  Let’s see how that works out for you, individually.

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                    Holocaust inversion = Holocaust denial.

                    What an objectively stupid thing to say. Saying the Holocaust didn’t happen is denial, not comparing it to other shit.

                    The rest of your comment is entirely irrelevant drivel that I can only assume is there to confuse people in the conversation into having an entirely different discussion with you.

                    Israel =/= all Jews you Zionist POS

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                    The Israeli government

                    And again, you cannot cover up a genocide with anti-genocide rhetoric. That’s the height of ridiculousness. Having been victims in the past does not give you a war crimes hall pass.

                    And oh boy a threat.