The optometrist recommended seamless bifocals. I have a very painful nerve condition in my face (atypical trigeminal neuralgia), so this is what I need with glasses: the lightest weight frames possible- known as ultra light- with the lightest weight lenses possible and automatically darkening lenses so I don’t need the weight of sunglasses. The cheapest frames brought the total to $250 on the site the insurance worked with.
The frames are $20 on the cheap site. Everything else in the cost is the lenses.
As for why I have to buy them online- I don’t want anyone touching my face unless it’s absolutely necessary. The exam was painful enough.
American for-profit healthcare is fucking awesome.
I bought glasses out of insurance from a company that I don’t think sells out of insurance glasses anymore. But it cost like $120 (getting glasses the normal way would’ve probably been a 4 digit number, so I consider $120 cheap for glassss), all I had to do was find my old prescription numbers then increase them by like 1 increment. Saved tons of money. Your eye doctor will refuse to tell you your prescription numbers if it’s been more than 1 year since your last appointment but there are ways to measure the lens curvature using light and shadows. You can’t get them any cheaper without becoming a glass blowing expert and doing it yourself, so good luck with that
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Except in every other Western nation, where they aren’t expensive.
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My spouse is from a European nation with high taxes. It’s not all roses there. There are pros and cons to each system.
Cool. I’m thousands of dollars in medical debt. The ‘cons’ I always hear are the long wait times. I’ve had to wait months to get procedures done here in the U.S.
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You sure don’t in Canada.
And yes, my case is very medically necessary. Without going into details because plenty of people have heard them way too many times, I’m close to one year without eating any solid foods.
That is on top of the neuralgia, which is mostly dealt with, but still requires me to see a neurologist. She can only see me twice a year. She’s also the only one in town.
Oh, and we have supposedly good insurance.
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Cool how you’re comparing that to the U.S. which will have all those costs on top of the care Canadians don’t have to pay for. Not at all dishonest.
I would say $250 is fairly cheap, in Scandinavia you can easily pay $1000+ for special lenses.
For me the cheapest with okay quality costs $500 for a deal with two pairs from SpecSavers.
Meanwhile absurd fashion retailer has this: https://www.ssense.com/en-us/men/product/nike/gunmetal-4311-glasses/11507631
Also this! https://mavigadget.com/products/pure-titanium-magnetic-clip-on-glasses/
$117 down from $224. For what is probably $1 of titanium.
I can make you something really cool with 10¢ worth of yarn. You’re paying me for my time, the logistics, and the fact that everyone involved needs to eat. This shit doesn’t make itself.
If you wanna point out the ridiculous prices of stuff on that website, there are plenty of dramatically wise offenses there. I just bought their PI7 though.
All this requires is a metal stamping machine and some quick assembly. We’re not talking about a car here, it’s a pair of eyeglass frames. The fact that you can get titanium frames for under $50 shows that this is ludicrously overpriced.
So design, storage, QA, logistics, and everything that’s necessary to actually get them in your hands don’t matter to you?
Edit: also the glasses you linked only need a stamping machine and a bit of deburring, but the ones I linked are much more elegant and also IMO look far better. Kinda ironic given how absurd the rest of their products look.
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Because I don’t have a metal stamping machine? What a silly question. If I say someone is overcharging for smoothies it doesn’t mean I need to open my own cafe.
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And yet you can still get them for under $50 when those are usually being sold for over $200. It’s because they have a designer label on them. I’m sure you understand that.
How so you think mist if the world affords eye glasses? Do you honestly think millions of poor Indian people pay the ridiculous prices they charge us?
No, of course they don’t. The problem is that the market is owned by one company and they pretty much charge whatever they want.
And here you are defending their exorbitant prices.
If you can’t afford the really nice ones, get the really cheap ones. Everyone’s plastering this post with links to chapter options and you’re acting like it screws you over that better stuff exists. I’ve been using glasses with the coating chipping away because I’m saving up to get nice ones. The dude with a Lambo isn’t depriving you of your scooter.
I’m an ABOA advanced optician, I’ve helped with lens designs, I’ve made my own line of frames, worked with every insurance company, and know the technical details of virtually every product on the market.
If it’s going to cost the same either way, do not get the online glasses. The 250 in store is discounted from probably 1200$, and the difference is immediately noticable.
The online glasses will not be measured to fit you properly, the focal point will be a best guess, which makes progressives have a ton of distortion, the frame won’t be adjusted and have no standards of material and shitty spring hinges, the transitions will be an old off brand composited lens that will delaminate after some time, the antireflective will be the cheapest, smudging crap possible, and the lenses will be thicker and heavier.
Go to a local optical, not any chain you’ve ever heard of. No corporate execs to pay means actual paid professionals helping you see better, as opposed to collision salesman trying to rip you off.
Online glasses are for single vision rx’s for children, not anybody who really needs glasses.
Man, I wish this was always true.
Here in BC/Canada, our healthcare doesn’t cover glasses, and our 3rd party providers only cover $2-300 every 2 years for glasses.
My last job had a $500 yearly flex-spend coverage, which I used to buy $600 glasses (mainly lenses cost-wise) with all the options/coatings/transitions/blue light filter/etc from the local eye clinic, and honestly the lenses are not great, and after less than 3 years the coating is bubbling in horizontal lines across the entire lens.
Honestly though, been regretting getting glasses with the blue light filter for the past 2 years anyways, nothing feels vibrant anymore and i swear it has been negatively affecting my mood, and i have noticed zero difference in eye strain levels.
Blue light filters have a purpose, but it isn’t eye strain. That’s just marketing bullshit from people who don’t know it’s purpose or can’t be bothered to translate it to laymen.
It’s purpose is to protect your retina from damage that accumulates throughout your life. It’s to protect you from developing macular degeneration. It does nothing anyone will notice, it’s more like sunblock, except you can’t feel the burn.
Also if someone sells you shit products, go to someone better if possible. But avoid chains at all costs.
So life loses vibrancy, but my retinas stay in slightly better shape when I’m 80? Sounds like future me problem then, definitely have no interest in trying again with a different pair after my next eye exam.
Unfortunately every eye doctor in this province (or at least not a 13 hour drive away) is associated with a chain, with I think a single exception that is referral only. So the best I can do is get an eye exam, demand my detailed results, and do my best to order glasses that fit comfortably.
Wait, the blue tint actually does something? Everyone kept telling me to get it because sCrEeNs BaD but I wanted the clearest vision possible. Couldn’t find anything online saying the blue tint wasn’t useless so saved myself the $30.
Just wear sunglasses when outside and you’re good. Or get transitions and never think about it again.
the frame won’t be adjusted and have no standards of material and shitty spring hinges
They’re the same frames sold in physical stores, though
the transitions will be an old off brand composited lens that will delaminate after some time the antireflective will be the cheapest, smudging crap possible, and the lenses will be thicker and heavier.
My old glasses that I don’t even wear anymore are 7 years old and never had issues and still aren’t delaminated at all, never had issues with smudging or glare
Go to a local optical, not any chain you’ve ever heard of. No corporate execs to pay means actual paid professionals helping you see better, as opposed to collision salesman trying to rip you off.
And yet you still spend way more than you would at somewhere like Zenni. So you’re getting ripped off for someone lower down the ladders benefit… Yay?
Online glasses are for single vision rx’s for children, not anybody who really needs glasses.
Complete bullshit. Not surprised that someone “with their own line of frames” would encourage people to go the pricier route, though.
I don’t feel like quoting or typing out responses, so I’ll just hit your points.
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No they’re fucking not. Not even close. There’s 200+ different manufacturers, and even individual lines from the same companies have wildly different qualities. I would know, since I work with them every day, go to several trade shows every year and didn’t get my info from Google.
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Survivorship bias, and you just noted you don’t wear them.
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This point is attempting to imply there is no difference in products, which there absolutely is.
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My line of frames is not a “big name”, and was only sold in 54 offices in 4 countries when I had them manufactured in 2021. There is no benefit to me for anyone to go to any store other than the two I own, you’ll never bump into my line, which I don’t make money from anyway.
I’m glad you watched a video once, but this is my profession and I know better than you.
No they’re fucking not
Nice source. Yes, they are.
Survivorship bias, and you just noted you don’t wear them
Holy shit dude, anymore. They survived 6 years of wearing. I’ve been using glasses off the internet for over 10 years as have 3 other people I know, it’s not survivorship bias if over 10 pairs of glasses haven’t had any of these issues you mention.
This point is attempting to imply there is no difference in products, which there absolutely is.
You’re right, the brand name glasses I used to wear have never lasted as long as my Zennis
I’m glad you watched a video once
Or I’ve ordered them and wear them regularly. Nice assumption though.
but this is my profession
So you’re incentivized to keep the bullshit going? Well, I should definitely trust you!
and I know better than you.
Clearly not, as you said a bunch of shit would happen with these glasses that, again, I’ve never seen despite my and my wife both having our entire family order glasses online for the last 8-12 years (mine 12, hers 8ish). Oh, and friends as well for about the same amount of time.
If you can’t tell the difference in quality between zenni and OvvO, lool, or paradigm frames, you’re willfully ignorant. I wouldn’t expect someone who only gets glasses online to know this since you have no experience. I however do.
As for issues with lenses, I see 25 patients a day, and have for the last 12 years. I’ve seen a few more cases than you and your wife, or even you and your friends.
Your opinions are not equal to my education and experience. I am literally an authority in this industry.
I’ve designed frames and vetted manufacturing plants to find one that fit my standards for materials. I make lenses everyday. I troubleshoot and fix or replace eyewear everyday. I know what happens when a focal point is off center by 3 mm. I can tell when someone is wearing online glasses just by how the temples fit.
There are a few very large companies that benefit greatly from pushing the idea that they’re all the same, and you’re shilling for them whether you know it or not.
wouldn’t expect someone who only gets glasses online
What part about “none of my online glasses have been any worse than the designer frames I got before” did you not read?
Your opinions are not equal to my education and experience. I am literally an authority in this industry.
Keep telling yourself that. So far you’ve only been a high on your own farts cunt spouting total bullshit. Frankly with how little of anything you’ve given but “but but but but I’m such a PROFESSIONAL” ive begun to think you’re a LARPing 13 year old
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Fucking Stanton and Warby Parker advertised $45 for 2 pairs… But you can only actually get that price if you don’t actually need lenses. These two (and probably all others advertising similar prices) are just fucking scams.
When i submitted the invoice for my safety glasses at work -$750- they just blinked
Canada doesn’t win here. Our opto care is embarrassing, it’s mercenary, it’s predatory.
I have decent insurance, so my c$1300 single pair was only $400. (Edit: Zenni for complex myopic astigmatic presbyopic thin lenses is about c$500)
Woo.
I feel ya.
We’re fixing dental care, slowly, but opto’s gonna be forever.
Have you tried Zenni?
I have not. I’ll chedk them out. Thanks.
No problem. I’ve been using their glasses for years now and haven’t had any problems with them. I only really replace them when I get a new script with changes in my vision.
I’ve had good luck with them over 3 pairs. I get the exam at Costco and then buy from Zenni. The most expensive pair so far has been $108 for progressives with anti-glare etc although that was during a sale. They are better quality and have lasted longer than almost anything I’ve got from the traditional optometrists places, even when I’ve gone higher end. Even better, you can select the distance for computer, mid or distance - I wear one of 4 pairs depending on what I’m doing - AND they don’t check your prescription so you can use an old one if you know that works for you.
Ain’t never going back.
$250 for a subscription glasses? WTF, are y’all Midas down there or something?
That’s cheap… I’ve paid over $500 -with- insurance.
lol you’re trolling, right? Are your glasses made of pure kryptonite or what? Even a high-end titanium frame costs $100-$150, regular stuff is well below that. The best prescription lens with all the features like anti scratch or anti blue light or UV-blocking and whatnot would cost no more than $30 each.
Prescription* lol
My issue is getting the examination. Let me know how to get that without insurance.
I get mine at the vision center in Walmart every two years for around $110-150 without any insurance which gets me an eye exam, contact lens prescription, glasses prescription, and one trial pair of contacts. I believe they are all third party, optometrist-owned practices that just rent space in the buildings so YMMV.
Comedian Kyle Ayers has Trigeminal Neuralgia as well. He’s about to do the Edinburgh Fringe Festival with his show (Hard to say) all about how he’s been dealing with it. I know that doesn’t help you with your glasses, but maybe his comedy can help alleviate some of the pain and worry.
Good luck.
I think Costco glasses are a good deal, even if you have to buy a one-year membership to get them. Don’t know if they’re available online, but don’t you want to try glasses on in person to make sure they fit and are comfortable?
No Costco around here unfortunately. I don’t want any glasses touching me unless they are the ultra lightweight ones. They weren’t available at the optometrist, which is who my insurance covered.
Just checked, it looks like you can buy Costco frames online, I got my glasses in the physical store and they were super cheap (like ~$60 for the lenses and ~$40 for the frames), it came out a bit over $100, I highly recommend.
Check out Firmoo, I’ve gotten really cheap prescription glasses on there multiple times.
Never heard of them. I’ll check them out. Thanks.
I am from cheap part of Europe. While you can get glasses for 20 Euros, with those kind of requrements 250 sounds about the same.
I guess some countries might get prescription, but I doubt “light frame and light lenses with darkening” would qualify.
I got mine for $30, they can make them mute expensive, but for just glasses, it’s perfect.
I have bought at least 10 pair from Zenni optical and they were just fine.
I got mine with their HD lenses, no-line bifocals with antiglare coating, and the total came to $135 shipped.
While my initial reaction to this was “wholly fuck that’s expensive” I realize that all those modifiers would make it close to a grand at a glasses shop.
I used them and they were great good-enough glasses.
I have had less than stellar results with Zenni, ymmv
I bought one pair from them and they were pretty crumby. Also getting the pupillary distance is tricky.
Measuring your own PD is ehhh. You can have the optometrist give you PD at your exam.
Good luck. Then the front of the store won’t get any business.
When I’ve gone to America’s Best for an eye exam, yeah, they were none too happy when I wouldn’t also buy glasses from them, but I got my prescriptions to go. Fuck em. Didn’t have a single problem with the optometrist office in the Target. I’m also pretty sure that the optometry part and the retail frames and lenses part of these stores are at least somewhat separate from each other, business-wise.
The down side of the online “cheap glasses” places is that when your frames show up all bent and twisted, you have to adjust them yourself, and if there’s a problem with the lenses, that’s a whole thing. Buying from a storefront, they’ll handle all that for you. I’m capable of running my plastic frames under hot water to straighten them out and adjust them to my crooked head.
I second this, but OP says they have special lens needs. That’s what stacks the price.
So far my $30 glasses is going strong for 5 years now.
When I got LASIK I wasn’t allowed to wear contacts for a few weeks before the surgery. I bought the cheapest pair of glasses from Zenni. I had new glasses for $17 + $10 shipping.
If I had to do it again I would have my IPD measured by a proper optometrist first. I just guessed at it and got ones a little too small, so they had a kind of fisheye effect.
Still, for <$30 it was a great bargain
