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    2 months ago

    Contender? He should’ve been the president in 2016. Democrats had to fuck that up. Trump won mostly because people hated Hilary.

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        I’m not so sure of that. Rich people from both parties might have thrown their money and power against the threat of even weak tea socialism.

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      2 months ago

      Hilary won the popular vote by almost 3 million because most people liked her.

      She lost the electoral college vote because of a few really close states.

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        She lost the electoral college because she rigged the primary.

        In retrospect the margin was so thin that if she’d only modestly pissed off Sanders voters she would have won.

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        A few states that were really close because her campaign was up against a social-media heavy campaign that weaponized misinformation, and didn’t know how to respond.

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        Yeah, against a playboy who didn’t have any political experience or acumen whatsoever. This should’ve been a landslide victory for dems. I stand by what I said, Trump won because it was Hilary he was up against. If it were Bernie, Trump wouldn’t have had a chance.

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          Even my dad, a blue collar welder in his late 60s, was totally on the Bernie train in 2016. If that doesn’t tell you anything about how Bernie could have done, I don’t know what will.

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            I have talked to several Trump voters that love Bernie. I mean it shows that they don’t pay any attention to policy or reality even, but I think it shows that Bernie would have won.

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      Nah, Hilary was a fine choice despite her own personal and political issues. Despite not preferring her, I am rather confident that she would have not made a bad President. Perhaps not a good one, just also not a bad one.

      Fucking shame what happened. Oi, Chaps! I say we bloody up this wanker with a side o’ voting!

      Sorry, channeling my stereotypical inner mocking British man.

      Edit: I stand by what I said unless given compelling reasons to not do so. Maybe I’m remembering things incorrectly. It’s been awhile. Make a case, don’t care if it’s a legitimate link. I’m happy to do a learn.

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      Hilary was beating the rapist with 34 felonies ass in the polls. The shit stain won because people thought it was a landslide and didn’t need to vote. That won’t happen again. She still won popular vote, something a republikkklown hasn’t done in a hot minute.

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      He wasn’t a Democratic Party member in 2016. He caucused and partnership with them but if he’s not going to be in the party, nobody should be surprised that he’s not the parties pick or preference. He didn’t officially join them until 2019. The circumstances might not have worked but be real the Democrats didn’t fuck it up in 2016.

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        Trump was an “unknown” in 2016… he has since made his stance painfully obvious. I think a lot more people are going to be willing to pinch their nose and vote for VP Harris.

        At least I hope so…

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            At the time, people only knew Trump was a misogynist, racist grifter. So, he was just a normal conservative. He also claimed to hate the government, so conservatives voted for him.

            They didn’t really get to know what a profoundly depraved sack of shit he was until he was president, at which point conservatives fell in love with him for being just like them. He truly is their most accurate representative.

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        I’ve grown to like her more in the last 24 hours as I read more about her actions through the last couple years.