At this point, a sack of potatoes would make a good president.
rolls for deception
I’m at this point, but unironically. Maybe we should reset back to what the president was always meant to be: a figurehead. Take away any unilateral decision making capabilities. They’re only really supposed to have the bully pulpit.
Based on what I’ve seen most people could make a good president if they pick good folks to give them advice and don’t act like douchebags.
I’d pay big money to see a prosecutor debate a criminal.
49% disapproval rating…ye gods that’s high. Pick literally anyone else. Even Biden yeesh
Imagine if Biden actually chose a decent VP in 2020 rather than just trying to virtue signal how he’s grown?
She’s probably the centrist dem to balance his social democracy platform while getting nominated.
U funny
He tried to legalize weed and make higher education free. He’s Bernie Sanders-Lite.
LOL
She needs to go with Biden
Because?
Mostly because centrists will vote for Turnip over a woman of color for President.
She a POS cop that happens to be a female POC.
A new poll from the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 6 in 10 Democrats believe Kamala Harris would do a good job in the top slot. About 2 in 10 Democrats don’t believe she would, and another 2 in 10 say they don’t know enough to say.
The undecided can be convinced during the campaign.
But I doubt I’ll start thinking Kamala would be a good president…
I do think that she’ll be able to beat Trump in the election at least. Which is better than Joe.
Exactly. I’m pretty sure she’s a psychopath with a bunch of ties to some horrible people, but it beats the other psychopath who has a bunch of ties to horrible people that specifically want to kill me for the variety of ways in which I am not a suitable barefoot and pregnant housewife. Also she’s not aggressively geriatric with a stiff gait and a vacant stare and could just be completely bodied by catching a common cold.
Yeah, “not 20 years past retirement age” is a pretty low bar to clear, but at least we did it.
What has she done to make you feel she is a psychopath?
psychopath
/sī′kə-păth″/
noun
- A person who engages repeatedly in criminal and antisocial behavior without remorse or empathy for those victimized.
- A person with a personality disorder indicated by a pattern of lying, cunning, manipulating, glibness, exploiting, heedlessness, arrogance, delusions of grandeur, sexual promiscuity, low self-control, disregard for morality, lack of acceptance of responsibility, callousness, and lack of empathy and remorse. Such an individual may be especially prone to violent and criminal offenses.
- A person diagnosed with antisocial or dissocial personality disorder.
I want to point out that psychopathy is a colloquial term, not a clinical one. The most popular set of criteria, the Psychopathy Checklist - Revised, is not empirically reliable or valid. Its creator Robert Hare has made a lucrative career out of convincing the world (and the prison system) that psychopaths are Definitely Real. The PCL-R is used to justify harsher punishments and longer prison sentences, and it’s completely made up.
I don’t know the thoughts of the other user and idk if this makes her a psychopath, but she did oversee an effort to deny prisoners parole just to keep them in California’s prisoner firefighter program to combat wildfires.
The program itself is fairly repugnant to begin with, as the prisoners don’t really have a choice in the matter, it’s tantamount to slavery, and her trying to keep people locked up to bolster it is vile. While California needed more firefighters to combat their wild fire issues, I don’t think slavery is the right solution.
Does that make her a psychopath? I’m not sure. Our definition of anti-social behavior is fairly restricted to what is legal and what isn’t and what she did was legal. But it damn sure is without empathy or remorse and, in a just world, promoting slavery would be considered antisocial behavior, in my humble opinion.
Source?
So you don’t have to wait 40 minutes again, I googled:
Kamala firefighter prison
And got a whole bunch of results…
The intransigence of this legal work resulted in the presiding judges in the case giving serious consideration to holding the state in contempt of court. Observers worried that the behavior of Harris’s office had undermined the very ability of federal judges to enforce their legal orders at the state level, pushing the federal court system to the brink of a constitutional crisis. This extreme resistance to a Supreme Court ruling was done to prevent the release of fewer than 5,000 nonviolent offenders, whom multiple courts had cleared as presenting next to no risk of recidivism or threat to public safety.
Despite a straightforward directive from the Supreme Court to identify prisoners for release over a two-year period, upholding a 2009 ruling that mandated the same action over the same timeline, the state spent the majority of that period seesawing back and forth between dubious legal filings and flagrant disregard. By early 2013, it became clear that the state had no intention to comply, leading to a series of surprisingly combative exchanges.
https://prospect.org/justice/how-kamala-harris-fought-to-keep-nonviolent-prisoners-locked-up/
Especially with Lemmy being so much smaller, you really shouldn’t just wait for someone to do it for you. “Teach a man to fish” and all that.
That article says Harris was acting on behalf of Govenor Jerry Brown as defense attorney. So just like OJ Simpson’s lawyers had to defend him because that’s their job regardless of their feelings. Lawyers can’t make decisions for their clients. They just argue on their behalf in court.
The call to relocate the overpopulated prisoners to the firecamps was not made by Harris but other lawyers that worked in the same office. They only suggested it as a temporary solution after the Supreme Court wouldn’t accept their solution to build another prison to address the overpopulation.
The Supreme Court suggested Govenor Jerry Brown release nonviolent prisoners to address the overpopulation. To be clear, this includes sex offenders, white collar criminals and arsonists just to name a few “non-violent” crimes.
Any decisions Harris made in this role were her job as a lawyer defending the previous attorney general’s decisions Govenor Jerry Brown. At least that’s what the article says. I can’t verify any of the claims because I don’t see any citations for them. But maybe that’s because I read it on mobile.
AGs are elected in California. She wasn’t a Jerry Brown employee.
You can’t just say “source?” at me like I’m some kind of search engine. We are two people having a conversation. Why not look around yourself before barking a command at another human? Do you talk like this to people in real life? This isn’t reddit, this isn’t debate club, I’m not doing that shit here.
Look something up, find out how I misremembered details of an event from years ago. Tell me the nuance I’ve missed. Yanno, like how people talk? Jeez!
No. If you make a claim, you back it up or get disregarded. It’s that simple. This is how we prevent misinformation from being spread. Stop being indignant over being lazy/irresponsible.
I mean, there’s asking politely after specifying what you would like a source for…
Or you could reply to a paragraph of text with:
Source?
And hope the person both guessing what you’re asking for and outs the time in to Google something for you and provide the link.
Asking nicely is more likely to get the help you’re asking for.
So you made it up. Got it
Slavery
promoting slavery would be considered antisocial behaviour
Slavery as a punishment for crime is legal as per the american constitution. Which absolutely vile, but america refuses to change their bit of paper.
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution?wprov=sfti1
Is that what sentencing typically involves, terms of slavery? I.e you are to serve X years at Y penitentiary? Does it need to be more specific or is that good enough for Y to “loan” out to do whatever?
I do not understand what you are asking?
Slavery as a punishment for a crime is enshrined in the constitution.
Thats all.
I’m just wondering if, during sentencing, slavery is already being part of the punishment, or of it has to be tacked on separately or explicitly. I.e are convicts being sentenced to slavery, explicitly, or do they have a choice in any of the slavery stuff? I’m asking about what is actually happening today.
The undecided can be convinced during the campaign.
What campaign? The election is in 3.5 months. Every day that Biden doesn’t step down is I’ve less day for Harris to start ramping up her campaign efforts.
Also, please someone do a poll of the undecided who have strong feelings towards…
- women
- minorities
- prosecutors
Although most may fall firmly in the Trump camp, I’m betting there are some undecided who think that women absolutely should not be president.
Not to mention waffling Republicans may be more incentivized to vote if the Democrat isn’t an old white dude.
One of the things that I think does go for her is that she’s been a part of a team that has actually done some amazing things, even with the Republican courts (SCOTUS and other) actively combatting them. How much of the development and running of that team has she been involved with? Maybe more than normal with a president halfway in the retirement home, but maybe not at all either. If her influence and proximity to the cabinet has done or taught her anything meaningful then we need more of that. He may be old, but he and his team have had a lot of wins.
Just a UK guy here, but she does seem like a pretty sensible swap. I know there’s some controversy around her because of her time in the police system, but I haven’t heard anything bad about her at all during her time as VP, she’s basically been off the radar (compare that shit to Pence).
A couple good speeches here and there, some reasonable policies to offer people, and Biden’s endorsement, and you’ve got a really solid replacement.
Yeah, it’s not like it takes a lot to beat trump
We just keep running terrible candidates against him
We don’t need a majority of Democrats, we need a majority of voters.
I am voting party not person this election.
get the fuck on board.
Ah, a distinction without a difference.
Ah, a thought-terminating cliche.
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A “thought-terminating” cliché based in sound logic. We could all hope more logical dilemmas that were just as solvable.On further study, It’s more than a cliché if one at all. -In fact I’d argue the common label “A distinction without a difference”. Is a particular logical fallacy no better than if TheReturnOfPEB had used a strawman, non sequitur, an Appeal to Fear, etc… to make a logical statement. To wit they are not acting logically.
Nah
This is the best summary I could come up with:
A new poll from the AP-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that about 6 in 10 Democrats believe Kamala Harris would do a good job in the top slot.
Oakley Graham, a Democrat in Greenwood, Missouri, said while he is “pretty happy” with Biden’s accomplishments in office, he felt that he would be more excited to support Harris at the top of the ticket and that it was “about time” a woman becomes president.
Black adults –- a key contingent of the Democrats’ coalition and a group that remains relatively more favorable to Biden than others — are more likely than Americans overall to say that Harris would do well.
Bailey said the Democratic Party needs Harris and a running mate “who can really motivate people to go out to the polls” — a task that she’s skeptical Biden can do as effectively.
In the AP-NORC poll, which was conducted before Trump made Vance his vice presidential choice, 6 in 10 Americans don’t know enough about him to form an opinion.
The poll of 1,253 adults was conducted July 11-15, 2024, using a sample drawn from NORC’s probability-based AmeriSpeak Panel, which is designed to be representative of the U.S. population.
The original article contains 996 words, the summary contains 201 words. Saved 80%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!
Is it sad that to be a “good” president, all one has to do is beat trump at the polls (ok the electoral college), and then do nothing else?
A great president would beat trump then roll back the immunity ruling (somehow ;) ) codify roe v Wade, and resign.
Why would they resign and present an undue opportunity for the far right to come to power again?
Would make the vice the president, who then could/would pardon the resignee, making anything the resignee did an official act, and if not then the pardon is the official act.
I kinda wanna see someone paint the White House in tie dye. White is so…. Boring.
Is it sad that to be a “good” president, all one has to do is beat trump at the polls (ok the electoral college), and then do nothing else?
Democrats barely even have that much ambition.
What are you on about ?
Why are you dragging the goalposts down the field ?
Why the fuck would or should anyone who could achieve those things resign?
But what do national polls say?
This was a national poll…
Did you have a typo or something?
What did you mean by “national poll” I don’t think it means what you think it means
Sigh. What do polls of the whole nation say, you know, rather than just what people who were registered to vote Democratic. What does the country as a whole think? Is she more popular than Biden? Would more people vote for her in swing states? Is she more popular than Trump?
It’s not really a strong endorsement of the Democratic deputy president to say that specifically Democrats think she might be OK to replace the president, is it? “People who like Democrats like a famous Democrat” just isn’t a strong recommendation. Need more info.
Not only are you looking for this poll, the article even mentions what you’re looking for…
Did you not read the article before dismissing it?
They can only fit so much in the headline…
It’s not really a strong endorsement of the Democratic deputy president to say that specifically Democrats think she might be OK to replace the president, is it?
6/10 Dems though Biden would be replaced, remember what Kamala is being compared to.
6/10 thinking shed make a good president is a positive move…
Need more info.
I’d suggest you start with the article, and if you still want more, look at the polls data directly
I see you quoted me more stats about what Democrats think. Thanks for the clarification. /s
To be honest I had already copied the part in the article you wanted, then figured you’d just ask for what’s in the next paragraph.
It’s honestly a lot easier when you read a headline and think “I need more info” to just read the article.
It’s all right there in the article, and a professional wrote it.
If that’s not enough, well, it’s really not hard to interpret poll results directly. I do it all the time, been doing it for years.
It’s a good skill if you care about politics, but you’ll never learn how to fish if people keep handing you fish when you ask
Oh wow, you spent a lot of time and effort making fun of my question, disagreeing with my question, answering the question that’s answered in the headline, telling me how great your analysis of the stats would be, finding some stats that you thought might answer my question and then instead of pressing paste on what you nearly admitted doesn’t quite answer my question, ranting at me yet again for daring to ask it.
I mean, the Democrats are within spitting distance of losing to Trump, which I think is a crisis in most parts of American society and a heck of a lot of countries in the world, but hey, as long as we don’t ask questions about whether a different leader would win, everything’s fine? Right?
Honestly, I suspect that if they had found out that Harris is more popular than Biden or Trump on a national poll, that’s absolutely the headline they would have gone with. 100%. This is a weak ass headline because it’s a weak ass result, and I think if there was something unequivocal in there that supported Harris over Biden or Trump nationally, someone would be shouting it, not hiding it in paragraph seven about black voters who often lean Democrat or something.
Honestly, I suspect that if they had found out that Harris is more popular than Biden or Trump on a national poll
Maybe you don’t have to suspect and can just read the fucking article. Because you’re wrong and are writing paragraphs of text about how you imagine things happen rather than just taking a minute out of your day to get the information you’re requesting. Don’t demand other people to be your assistant and then get pissy when they call you out for it.
She would do just fine, but she’ll never be elected. HRC had a better chance and failed…
Hilary was subject to one of the longest running smear campaigns I can remember. The right started pounding her years before she ever got near the Oval Office.
Hell, it’s actually still ongoing, and she’s retired.
edit: You may have noticed them pursuing a similar strategy with AOC too. They like to go after potential future dem leadership very early.
Hilary was subject to one of the longest running smear campaigns I can remember. The right started pounding her years before she ever got near the Oval Office.
Add to that, she earned the resentment of Obama supporters in 2008 and Sanders supporters in 2016. And I bet Harris would bother to campaign in swing states.
AND she still probably would have won if Comey didn’t drop another “but her emails” bombshell immediately before the election. It was completely inappropriate and allowed Trump to just barely squeak into office. One that had no legal teeth, and resulted in no legal issues after the election.
And she still won millions more votes, just in the wrong places.
That she won the popular vote and was within spitting distance of winning the EC despite all these issues should put to rest the idea that a woman can’t win, but the “I’m not sexist, but” people keep using it as justification for only running straight white men. Not to mention that since then the biggest winning issue in politics seems to be abortion, so if anything the environment is even more primed to accept female leadership.
Yes, and the messaging that Kamala has repeatedly slept her way to the top with no other skills and is simultaneously inept and corrupt is definitely out there and now intensifying.
