The motive behind Jovanovic’s actions was reportedly her fear that motherhood would jeopardise her professional career as a lawyer for a prestigious car brand.
As fucked up as this is, there’s so little information given by this article that I can’t even form an opinion on it.
My current take is babies should not be thrown out of windows
Sure that was my initial impression too, but I think I am going to sleep on it and maybe take some polls or study the matter more deeply. Can’t be too rash when judging someone for tossing a baby out of a window.
Yeah, what if the baby was an asshole?
‘Who are we killing, I won’t do kids, that’s a rule, but the rule’s negotiable if the kid’s a dick.’
- Adrian Pimento, B99
Also it is really important that we consider all points of view. Maybe the pro-baby throwing out of the window side raises some interesting arguments. Let’s hear them out
Fucking extremist!
Personally I like to listen to all sides
Feels clickbait but it got me going for a minute haha
People without kids are often discriminated against when it comes to raises and promotions. Maybe I should move to Germany. Or just grow a pair and lie, what’s stable diffusion for anyway.
You’re a fucking lawyer for a prestigious car brand. Surely hiring a god damn nanny was a better solution than child murder?
Take a week off, go to the hospital to get yourself and baby checked out. While in hospital, order a car seat. They’ll probably give you some diapers and an outfit or blanket.
Then, when you leave the hospital, head to fire dept and place baby in the “need a baby, take a baby, have a baby, leave a baby” box.
I know you’re being facetious, but this was in Germany where workers actually have rights to take a week off, and healthcare is freer than breadsticks.
That’s sad that your first assumption was that I was joking because I said “take a week off” and “go to the hospital”. Not a statement about you but about the state of things in some areas.
Though it’s also sad that I silently assumed those weren’t outlandish suggestions because she was a lawyer (though, as a Canadian, I did forget for a moment that “go to the hospital” might be a showstopper rather than the minimum level of care a parent who doesn’t want their surprise baby should do before abandoning it at the fire dept).
The only part that I had intended as tongue in cheek was the “leave a baby, take a baby” bit. The comment was intended as a “this is a better way to handle this than dropping the baby out of the nearest window that doesn’t involve having to take care of the baby at all, beyond a week of dealing with it with a minimum level of responsibly.”
Alternatively, put the baby in a box with a towel, drop it off in a location where it can survive 5 minutes and call 911 to that location. Or call an adoption agency.
Let’s set aside motive and treat this woman’s obvious problem with her mental health. The last thing she needs is criminal proceedings and punishment that achieves nothing apart from getting conservative dicks hard.
They don’t have birth control in Germany?
They don’t have adoption in Germany?
That too, but if I were this adamant about having kids, I’d make damn sure I don’t have one in the first place.
We have both. And the possibility to leave the new born at a (I think mostly) hospital anonymously
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_hatch
I don’t think this was a rational decision. She should and will face consequences, but I don’t think she did it thinking straight.
Abortion.
Defence attorney Malte Hoech, 53, presented a contrasting view, arguing that the incident was a tragic accident. Hoech claimed Jovanovic was unaware of her pregnancy and overwhelmed by the sudden birth.
So your client is intelligent enough to earn a law degree and achieve a high rank at a prestigious multi-national, but too stupid to figure out she’s preggers? Yeah, that’s believable.
it actually is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neonaticide?wprov=sfla1 has a bit to say on it, but doesn’t go too much into the root causes. The majority of cases as far as I understand it stem from the mother not wanting to accept that she is pregnant. This is a delusion, mind you, and if untreated, can have dire consequences as shown here. To mothers who are not adequately prepared for birth (because they, for whatever reason, have repressed their pregnancy), giving birth must be about as traumatizing as if I were to wake up tomorrow with a third leg (that wants to be fed).
The German-language coverage of this is also very hit and miss. most outlets, like here, put an emphasis on here being a Porsche lawyer, which is a) bending the truth somewhat for shock value (she’s a contract counsel for their financing subsidiary iirc) and b) completely irrelevant, as other outlets point out that this pathological behavior does not know class boundaries.
Thanks for that very reasoned response
I’ve known some workaholics, And they can be pretty oblivious to everything that isn’t in the lane of their work life. Their own health, already born children, basic life stuff, etc… Also stress induced amenorrhea is a thing .
This psycho should absolutely go to prison. But it’s possible she’s at least being honest.
Interesting take. I’m open to it. Thanks.
Those speed runners find the weirdest bugs in the simulation
Holy fuck lol
Hmmm. It looks like Germany has fairly strict limits on the availability of abortion; it’s on-demand up to 12 weeks, but requires mandatory counseling first. It seems like perhaps expanding abortion access to on-demand up to the point of realistic fetal viability and eliminating the counseling requirement might–might–have led to a different outcome here.
I wonder if she had attempted to terminate her pregnancy prior to this point?
For the people saying that she should have just adopted the infant: that’s extremely difficult for someone to do, even if they know that they don’t want a child or are not capable of caring for it. I’ve seen multiple teens end up keeping children that they didn’t plan on, didn’t want, and had no means to care for, all because they couldn’t go through with an adoption in the end.
The government has called up an expert committee and asked for their opinion on potential reforms.
The report came in April, and it strongly suggests making it actually legal in the first 12 weeks (it is currently only decriminalized) and getting rid of the mandatory counseling. They leave it up to the lawmakers to deal with week 12 to 22 (where the fetus starts being able to sustain itself).
The government has not yet started on n implementing this, however.
For the people saying that she should have just adopted the infant: that’s extremely difficult for someone to do, even if they know that they don’t want a child or are not capable of caring for it. I’ve seen multiple teens end up keeping children that they didn’t plan on, didn’t want, and had no means to care for, all because they couldn’t go through with an adoption in the end.
I’ve empathy for the hypothetical individuals you present. They love their children so much that they can’t give them up. I even know someone who lived a similar experience and also know their now-adult children.
But, that’s not what happened here. This woman cared so little for vulnerable humans that she threw one out of a moving vehicle.
she threw one out of a moving vehicle.
Building. She threw it out of her apartment.
If you can’t stand to give your baby up, you’re also not going to be willing to throw it out the window
I guess she didn’t think infanticide would hurt it? She’s clearly not a good lawyer.
I’m not sure she’s actually wrong in the part about it Jeopardizing her career, because let’s face it sometimes that’s true. However did that not occur to her before she had the child? Surely she should have known that and not had a kid if that was her main priority.
Or, she’s a lawyer for a luxury car company…
So hire a god damn nanny?
This is sad, and it’s a shame the prosecutors are only going to be interested in a conviction. This woman is obviously suffering, and needs medical help for her postpartum depression.
Jesus. I thought this was an onion article.
Insane. I can’t imagine a woman doing that to her own newborn baby. Defenestrating a baby would also ruin her career, so I guess she has a lot of other things going into that decision.
It’s not a logical decision.
This just sounds like post partum depression to me.
“Just”
Post partum psychosis.
You’re all rational and empathetic about this smh
That’s definitely how I try to be! 😊
I can’t even begin to understand what it’s like inside a woman’s brain after childbirth. My wife struggled through it and came out ok. I’m glad I could help her.
I read that the hormone swing from pregnancy to “back to normal” the month or so after is the fastest swing in hormones a human can experience.
It can absolutely fuck up your brain during that time + lack of sleep + stress. It’s a recipe for this kind of thing.
Fuck dude.
I know, I’m awful. At least I had the decency to edit out the last panels.
I think that makes it even better. Fucking dark, but still funny because we all knew right away what the last panel would look like were it there…
It makes the joke just that much more of an oof tho.
10/10 my friend
Ok I legitimately laughed at this. Well done, sir.
Please repost that as its own meme, this is gold!
WDYM “its own meme”? Comedy is all about context, and this meme is only perfect because it’s in the context of this story.
