• Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org
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    3 months ago

    As someone who was successfully converted to veganism I’m not going to take your shitty cow raping, carnist ass, stanky opinions on how to convert people. Go on, chuck a few slices of bacon in the pan for me.

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        3 months ago

        I, too, kill people to spite other people I don’t like. One time a woman cut me off in traffic, so I murdered my girlfriend and buried her in the backyard to piss that driver off

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      3 months ago

      Let me ask you this: where do you stand on shearing sheep?

      EDIT: Since the user chose to ignore my question, I’ll just explain my reasoning. Many vegans consider the shearing of sheep and using of wool to be cruel, with some having ‘rape’ and ‘molestation’ narratives like those being addressed in this meme and active in this thread. Despite this, modern sheep require sheering for their health, and will become matted, heavy and overheated otherwise.

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        There’s nothing wrong with shearing sheep if there’s no exploitation occurring. The problem is when you add a profit motive to keep breeding animals designed with their exploitation in mind.

        However, I’m going to go out on limb here, and there probably aren’t many sheep in the care of vegans except on animal sanctuaries. The important thing is to stop buying wool and funding animal exploitation.

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        3 months ago

        Huh, I wonder if sheep used to grow less sool and humans just bred them for a lot of wool. Time to go research!

        Edit: that is exactly what happened. Wild sheep do not grow a lot of wool.

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          Yes, they did. Either way, however, not shearing domestic sheep is harmful to them, and I’ve personally seen the molestation “argument” appear in response to such a statement in the past.

          Someone who’s more informed might respond with something about the selective breeding. Plenty will still respond with the same energy already seen within this thread.

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        3 months ago

        I didn’t choose to ignore anything. I just have a life outside of being an annoying vegan.

        You already knew what I was going to say, though. I’m personally against wool products because they breed sheep specifically to grow unhealthy amounts of wool and once the few good coats they have in them are gone they send them off to be killed for food anyway.

        Sheep can also be mistreated during the shearing process, and since shearers are often paid per sheep they’re incentivised to rush through them.

        I’m not going to use the word rape here since I don’t think it applies.

        Have I activated any trap cards?

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      3 months ago

      vegans are insufferable to animal abusers the way environmentalists are insufferable to climate change deniers

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      I will. I plan on enjoying it. I hope you recognize that I’m doing this at your behest, equivalent to you eating the meat.

      Also, have you ever considered that some people know where their meat comes from and know that it’s not being kept in horrible conditions? I don’t really care that it’s dying to feed me. Plants die to feed me too.

      I’m not going to get into the environmental aspect as I know that veganism is better for the environment, but just shifting away from factory farmed red meat would be a huge positive change and then you don’t even piss off the majority of the population (that see you as a self-righteous shithead) :)

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        Obviously I’d prefer it if you didn’t eat animals but I’m actually chill with just being more mindful about what you support. If you’re going out of your way to try and minimise the harm you’re doing then that’s better than most people.

        And at least you recognise the environmental harm. The only thing that really annoys me is people lying about these things.