• Destide@feddit.uk
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    29 days ago

    People aren’t going to say the bad option when asked. How many of that 85% actively avoid them?

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        29 days ago

        That’s what it comes down to. And we can only choose the best of whatever options were given by the specialists providing them (ie food distributors and shippers).

        If we could, we’d try and influence shippers so they use greener options, but most of those decisions aren’t exposed for us to tune. It’s very much a “thing comes out of slot in black box” kind of setup with no input at any point in the supply chain and we’re left feeling guilty for choosing to buy food.

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      29 days ago

      That’s very much a “you criticize a system yet you live in it” kind of argument. It’s pretty much impossible to avoid single use plastic even if you try really hard. You can reduce their usage but it’s up to manufacturers to step up (or be forced by law) and find alternatives.

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      29 days ago

      The magic about collective action is that the everyday-normal-coorperation of humans comes up with solutions for everyone. The pointer to individual decision-making in lack of collective action thus doesn’t work as a measure of how serious people are.

      Also seen in episodes like

      “Oh, you are wearing shoes made under unfair conditions?!”

      And

      “Oh there is fossil fuel in your energy consumption?”

      Or

      “Oh if you like democracy so much, why do you exist in a not-so-democratic-country?”

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      29 days ago

      That’s a classic strategy from how to lie with statistics, when conducting observational polling -

      if you phrase the question of would you like an externality to be applied to other people do you support this thing? You get a lot more yeses

      If you phrase the question about what would you give up for this external benefit ? You get a lot more noes