"After a day of holding its fire, the Biden campaign late Friday blasted Donald Trump as a ‘convicted felon’ — an indication the president’s team has decided to seize upon Trump’s conviction to question his fitness for the White House,” Axios reports.

“The broadside from Biden’s campaign — in a press release chiding Trump for his ‘unhinged’ rant earlier in the day — put President Biden in the same camp as many Democrats who are now mocking the ex-president.”

“It also marked a departure from Biden’s approach in remarks at the White House hours earlier, when he danced around the ‘convicted felon’ label while criticizing Trump’s attack on the U.S. justice system.”

  • kmartburrito@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Let me start by saying I loathe Trump likely way more than you do. Look at my comment history.

    Second, actually, YOU are wrong. Trump is not a felon yet. The Judgment has not been entered yet. The Judgment, which is what essentially under the law means a person has a felony conviction on their record, that happens at the time of entry of Judgment which follows the sentencing. So although colloquially we are referring to him as a convicted felon, and it’s true that he’s been convicted by a jury of 34 felony counts, that judgment doesn’t get entered until after the sentence is applied, which will be on July 11th.

    You can disagree with me, but this came from Jessica Roth, a former federal prosecutor, and she covered this on the 538 politics podcast that aired on May 30th. She talks about this at around the 12 minute mark.

    I’m betting she knows much more about the law than you or me. So maybe you should back off a bit?

    So if you don’t agree with me still, why don’t you put forth evidence to support your claim like I just did?

    Fuck donald trump though.

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      2 months ago

      This seems like a semantic “tomatoes are fruits” argument.

      Words have multiple definitions and can meet one definition while not meeting the other.

      Folks have provided one definition for “convict” that Trump meets and you’re simply arguing that he doesn’t meet a different definition for “convict” that no one else is trying to meet. Seemingly simply so you can be “right”.

      It makes sense that a federal prosecutor would use the jargon of the field. Just like a biologist would say “Yes indeed! Tomatoes are fruits!”

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        2 months ago

        Other people are saying that convict is short for convicted felon who is currently serving their sentence.

        Nobody refers to convicted felons who have served their sentence and are out walking around as convicts. They are referred to as felons, because they are convicted felons even though they are no longer convicts.