"After a day of holding its fire, the Biden campaign late Friday blasted Donald Trump as a ‘convicted felon’ — an indication the president’s team has decided to seize upon Trump’s conviction to question his fitness for the White House,” Axios reports.

“The broadside from Biden’s campaign — in a press release chiding Trump for his ‘unhinged’ rant earlier in the day — put President Biden in the same camp as many Democrats who are now mocking the ex-president.”

“It also marked a departure from Biden’s approach in remarks at the White House hours earlier, when he danced around the ‘convicted felon’ label while criticizing Trump’s attack on the U.S. justice system.”

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    If he wants to beat Trump he needs to start helping Americans, stopp supporting genocide abroad, start really supporting the victims, and other shit the people who might vote for him want…

    Everyone not already voting trump know he’s always been a criminal, we knew that shit in 2016.

    And no one that’s already going to vote trump, is going to care.

    Like, considering how big of a deal Biden’s support of Israel’s genocide is, and how he keeps trying to lie to make them sound like the good guys only for Bibi to to repeatedly and immediately blow up Biden’s bullshit…

    It looks like Biden is either intentionally lying when he blames Hamas for no ceasefire, or even worse, he really is Charlie Brown and can’t remember the last time he was tricked 2 minutes ago.

    Doesn’t matter which it is, both make potential voters think Biden isn’t good enough, and that sacrificing our morals to vote for a genocide enthusiast isn’t worth

    Personally I’m just fucking tired of Biden acting like Republican voters are idiots for supporting a criminal while Biden is literally breaking the law by providing weapons that will be used to commit a genocide…

    https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/u-s-made-weapons-used-by-government-of-israel-in-violation-of-international-law-and-u-s-law/

    Like, sure, trump shouldn’t have done that, and he should face punishment (hopefully jail) but right now as we speak Biden is providing munitions that will be used to genocide a population based on their religious views…

    And Biden is just repeating “nuh-uh” and forcing government agencies to released false reports saying there’s zero evidence when there is literally mountains of evidence.

    Dem voters just aren’t as good as ignoring shit like this, we need good candidates.

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      People who think Biden has a choice wrt Israel and Gaza are fucking clueless as to how powerful aipac is in the USA.

      Get a fucking clue people. Politics is bigger than Gaza, sorry to say.

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        People who think Biden has a choice wrt Israel and Gaza are fucking clueless as to how powerful aipac is in the USA.

        Wow. I’ve heard some absolute shit excuses for Biden’s support for genocide, but “We have to keep supporting genocide because the antisemites are right and The Jews do secretly run everything” takes the fucking cake.

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          I don’t think it’s as simple as some sort of ‘Jewish Conspiracy’ thing, but the Jewish Zionist lobby is HUGE.

          Let’s say Biden stopped all aid to Israel tomorrow, you can bet you sweet ass that Trump will win by a landslide purely through all the Jewish votes suddenly transferring to him, for the RIGHT OR WRONG reasons it doesn’t fucking matter.

          People are are THAT fucking stupid and obsessed with Israel. They think Israel can do no wrong whatsoever, just because.

          It’s wrong and sad and stupid, but there it is.

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            Let’s say Biden stopped all aid to Israel tomorrow, you can bet you sweet ass that Trump will win by a landslide purely through all the Jewish votes suddenly transferring to him

            Jewish voters are better people than you’re giving them credit for.

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              I think you are underestimating the pro-Israel vote and overestimating the average intelligence of people generally.

              I’m not attacking Jewish people BTW.

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      100% we need better candidates. 100% democrats suck. 100% Biden should stop supplying Israel.

      But also. At this point, the literal only chance we have against Trump getting back into the White House is to vote Biden. Trump ALSO SUPPORTS GENOCIDE. Not just that, but about a thousand other things that will destabilize THE ENTIRE WORLD. Even ignoring all of his domestic policies and the fact that he has already shown that he will do everything in his power to become a lifetime dictator, he is on the wrong side of every international dispute. He supports Russia over Ukraine, he supports China over Taiwan, he supports North Korea over Japan, he supports any dictator that says they’ll give him money or power.

      This post wasn’t about Biden’s support of genocide, it was about the democrats finally growing some fucking balls and speaking truth about how insane it is that half the country doesn’t believe Trump has ever done anything wrong.

      Don’t become a single issue voter. Do I agree with Biden? Not on A LOT of things. But he has done a great deal to unfuck what Trump did to the economy last time. He has gotten student debt forgiven, despite facing pushback and rollbacks multiple times. But look at the alternative. Do you remember what it was like under Trump? I live in a time zone 3 hours off from DC. Every morning I would wake up and read about some new idiotic thing the leader of our country did or said. We should continue to push Biden on Israel, absolutely, but we don’t have the threat of not voting for him. Pretending that we do is likely to lead to voter apathy, which puts our entire nation in danger. Biden is not the lesser of two evils, he’s the evil that is going to ensure that we have the chance to vote for someone else in 4 years.

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        But also. At this point, the literal only chance we have against Trump getting back into the White House is to vote Biden

        The convention hasn’t even happened yet…

        Won’t for months…

        So even if you say it’s impossible for anything to make Biden to listen to voters, it’s not too late to run a candidate that voters actually want to vote for.

        This post wasn’t about Biden’s support of genocide, it was about the democrats finally growing some fucking balls and speaking truth about how insane it is that half the country doesn’t believe Trump has ever done anything wrong.

        Stop acting like trump matters. Trump is the same criminal asshole he’s always been. This the third goddamn election where the dem.is running on “trump is a criminal”.

        But Biden breaking US and International law to provide munitions to a genocide and the fact that he’s went around the US government to do so already really takes the wind out of “only an idiot would vote for a criminal”.

        In this election, both candidates have committed very serious crimes, and “do t vote for a criminal” translates to “dont vote”.

        Because both options are criminals.

        Republican voters have no issue ignoring that they’re candidate is a criminal, Biden doesn’t have that “luxury”.

        And I really don’t want to watch a repeat of 2016.

        Like you remember how close 2020 was without all this baggage right?

        If you don’t want trump as president, then you don’t want Biden as the Dem candidate.

        Don’t become a single issue voter.

        I wish people stopped acting like the biggest issue is the only one.

        I’m not typing a fucking essay about all the reasons Biden is a bad candidate for every comment. This isn’t the only reason voters don’t want Biden.

        It’s just the example of him clearly and unapoligicatly breaking US and International law, and just trying to gaslight voters by having government agencies release obvious lies in official reports.

        This is a big issue, but it’s no one’s “single issue” with Biden

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          That’s a lot of English words for a Russian that would love nothing more than to get bookended by Trump and Putin.

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          The convention hasn’t even happened yet…

          Won’t for months…

          The fuck are you talking about? Are you trying to imply that there’s a chance that Biden won’t be the nominee? How delusional are you?

          Stop acting like trump matters. Trump is the same criminal asshole he’s always been. This the third goddamn election where the dem.is running on “trump is a criminal”.

          I would fucking LOVE to stop acting like Trump matters. The fact is that half of this country still wants to vote for him. That makes him an immediate threat.

          But Biden breaking US and International law to provide munitions to a genocide and the fact that he’s went around the US government to do so already really takes the wind out of “only an idiot would vote for a criminal”.

          In this election, both candidates have committed very serious crimes, and “do t vote for a criminal” translates to “dont vote”.

          Because both options are criminals.

          Yes. I agree with you. But one criminal is supporting ONE genocide, and the other criminal is supporting MULTIPLE genocides. <insert trolly problem meme>

          If you don’t want trump as president, then you don’t want Biden as the Dem candidate.

          I literally DON’T want Biden as the Dem candidate, but that ship has sailed. The democrats fucked around for 4 years and now is running this fucking ancient centrist product of the last 5 decades of “normal” levels of corruption. This election matters. Get the fuck in line. As soon as we can guarantee that we will still have a country, then we can work on dismantling the democratic party. This shitty rusted out piece junk car we’re in has to make it to the service station so we can fix it. Otherwise we’re gonna die in the desert. There’s no tow truck big enough to save us if we break down before we get there.

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            Yes. I agree with you. But one criminal is supporting ONE genocide, and the other criminal is supporting MULTIPLE genocides.

            Vote for Biden! He’ll use your tax dollars to commit less genocides, but we still won’t use any for healthcare or education!

            Be happy you have one bad option and only one fascist option!

            Now everyone close your eyes while we sic violent police (who are fascists) on peaceful college protestors!

            But you threw so many insults in there, were done know.

            Hope you sleep well while trying to keep a genocidal maniac in office.

            I sure as shit couldn’t, so I stopped holding my nose.

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              So now you’ve done you soapbox bit and stepped down to breath again, I have a question.

              You say “stopped holding your nose”, what does that mean? Who is it you will vote for?

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                If it’s Biden or trump, someone else.

                I’ve voted Dem for president for literally 20 years.

                The only time I’ve wanted that person to actually be president was 2008, by 2012 Obama’s drone strikes and other bullshit him made him just another “lesser evil”.

                You can try and convince the millions and millions people like me and hope it’s enough.

                Or you could try and pressure either the DNC to run a candidate with a realistic shot to beat Trump, or to pressure Biden to at least say the right things for the next few months.

                But if nothing changes, Biden isn’t going to be able to pull out the incredibly close win he did in 2020.

                And considering my states primary ballot literally only had Joe Biden as an option, don’t even try to tell me to the vote in primaries if I don’t like Biden.

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                  Ok, thanks for answering. For the record, I’m not trying to push you anywhere. I was just curious.

                  Without forcing you or others with my opinion, I do think not voting or voting 3rd party is helping trump but in this I could be wrong, just a hunch I have. Good luck come November!

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              Nope. Fuck you. When Trump wins and we’re supporting a thousand genocides, it’s all your fault for refusing to acknowledge the reality that we’re in. I’m not “keeping a genocidal maniac in office.” That’s insanely reductive, and again, you’re turning this into a single issue election. What’s worse, is that the other option has literally the same view on that single issue. Not voting by for Biden IS voting for Trump.

              Nobody is happy about this election. It isn’t about happiness. It’s about survival.

              The best advice I ever heard about politics is that it isn’t a taxi, it’s a bus. It doesn’t take you directly where you want to go, it takes you somewhat closer than you are. This upcoming bus ride is going to get us insignificantly closer to our final destination, but it will move the needle in that direction. The other option is driving the bus into a chasm.

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                That’s a great analogy. I’m definitely going to use it in the future.

                Trump plans to only directly support the genocide in Palestine. The other atrocities will come from his plan for withdrawal of support from Ukraine, Taiwan, and NATO allies while claiming isolationism. He plans to give Putin and Xi absolute freedom and leave resistance up to the EU.

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              Vote for Biden! He’ll use your tax dollars to commit less genocides, but we still won’t use any for healthcare or education!

              Do you think money isn’t being used for education when student loan debt is forgiven?

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        Time zones didn’t matter bro. Those 3am shitter rage tweets gave us all the opportunity to wake up to insanity.