• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    In high school I had friends that where beaten by their parents for coming out as gay. It seems like that’s gotten extremely rare in the past decade outside of creepy religious folks - I hope that eventually trans folk can come out as openly trans without facing retribution but we’re just not fucking there yet and it should be an individual’s choice as to when to do it anyways…

    So uh, fuck conservatives. I guess that’s the point of my ramble. Fuck Conservatives.

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      I wonder if this is something unique to millennials. I firmly believe schools shouldn’t have to disclose anything regarding a student’s sexuality or gender identity to the parents, because I remember how intolerant and downright brutal parents were to their LGBT kids when I was in high school. I prefer to let the school and teachers keep things from parents, because I don’t trust conservative parents to not abuse their children.

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        Ayup, before millenials the queer kids would just stay in the closet for self preservation but we were right on the border where kids wanted to express themselves but occasionally ate a lot of pain for it. I hope it was just a millennial thing (for sexual orientation at least) because it fucking sucked… and I hope the same thing happening to trans kids is mostly just a Gen Z and Alpha thing because that also fucking sucks.

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          The parents in this case are Gen X aren’t they? That makes sense I guess since it’s a 50/50 split generation on liberal and conservative. I’d be extremely surprised to see the children of millennials having this problem though. Millennials have been an unusual generation because they haven’t been becoming more conservative

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            It’s pretty common for families to skip a generation especially in developed countries - if you’re having kids in your thirties it’s extremely unlikely you’ll be in adjacent generations since those are usually defined as 15 years long. So most millenials had Boomer parents while Gen Z mostly have Gen X parents. Bear in mind that gender role fuzzing mostly entered pop culture with Gen X.

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      Interestingly enough the highest “conversion” rate I’ve seen among conservatives (i.e. ones that suddenly realize they’re the baddies) is among those that have kids that come out as LGBT.

      Conservatives just lack imagination at the end of the day. They think being gay happens to other people. They think being poor happens to other people. They think medical emergencies that bankrupt your family happen to other people. But when LGBTQ issues suddenly emerge in their own household, I find that more than any other issue gets them to reassess.

      Make no mistake, many just reject the family member in question. But when they do “convert,” it’s almost always over LGBTQ right suddenly becoming very, very relevant to them.

      **this is all anecdotal

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        I mean it’s the same with racist assholes end up having mixed grandchildren. Flips them completely From what I’ve seen

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          What do you think conservators are so terrified of college and education in general? Familiarity and experience breeds acceptance. When you get to know people of other backgrounds and other experiences another lifestyles you begin empathize with them. It’s as antithetical to conservatism as you can get. Conservatism only flourishes in the dark. Only in small ignorant closed off communities can conservatism grow. A lot like mold really.

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        My general thought is that conservatives just lack the ability to empathize to the same extent that liberals do - whether genetically or due to their upbringing, they just have “us vs. the other” deeply ingrained.

        My favorite example of this was Dick Cheney, who had an oddly socially liberal stance on gay marriage… and, coincidentally, had a gay daughter.