• Suavevillain@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    People have been saying this for over 40+ years and liberals have lead the direction of the party with no results for working class people. If there was ever a time to show you’re not locked into the duopoly now would be the time between two genocidal old men. People would suck it up and vote for Biden if at least attempted to show some backbone and stand for something. But every time he gets the chance he just works with Right Wingers on some bipartisan bs adopting their policies and direction.

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      3 months ago

      You completely ignored my point and just reiterated the same talking points.

      If you want to change the system, it’s not done by voting for a third party for POTUS. As I said, doing so is just vanity and does nothing to fix the problem. The problem is solved at the grassroots level.

      You don’t like the rules, neither do I. But the solution to changing the rules is not to not play the game, but to work to change the rules where the rule changes actually happen. Not playing the game just helps the least desirable team win.

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        Nobody has said to skip the work of working from the bottom in state and local elections. People do support those campaigns and even when they do they have to fight against Dems and GOP locking them out of being choices there as well. The infinite loop of picking the nicer fascist isn’t doing anything as well.

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          The infinite loop of picking the nicer fascist isn’t doing anything as well.

          That’s the whole point: your goal to change how we can reasonably vote in the POTUS vote, does not happen when electing the POTUS, so expecting electing the POTUS to change this makes no sense.

          It has to come from elsewhere. While I strong disagree with the classification, you’re stuck voting for the “nicer fascist” less you end up with the worse fascist.

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      3 months ago

      The US has also been an inherently conservative country for 40+ years, and it is only just now gaining a substantial left wing presence.

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        It is only since the Internet went wide that leftists in the US have been able to get unbiased attention. We were always here, but it’s hard when even MSNBC compared your ideas to dictators in the 1990’s and 2000’s before jumping on the bandwagon (but only if private corporations can get their middle man profiteering on).