I think a lot of doom and gloom haunts this era and leaves us blind.
We entered the information/disinformation age very recently of course it was going to be global chaos. I think it was necessary and good things are ahead.
Every generation believes the end is nigh, they’ve all been wrong but sometimes felt and saw and swear they were right. I’m sure as Rome burned and the Aztec empire fell and the black plague devoured they thought the end was here.
Yet here we are and how irrelevant their issues are today.
This isn’t the comfort you think it is. If the bombs light up my horizon, I won’t be thinking “well, at least some remote tribe might continue a stone age humanity” while my entire family is consumed in a nuclear fire.
The Roman Empire one is a harder one, since it was a centuries-long process with plenty of plagues, wars and migrations. It’s not hard to find sources, however, that the city of Rome fell from 1 million to 30.000 ~ 60.000 people.
That’s kind of what triggered my question, there’s a common misunderstanding that the fall of Rome was something brutal and with few causes (that are selected by politicians when they want to scare people). I think Rome losing its population can be explained by emigration rather than people dying.
It all depends on your perspective and what position of society you occupy.
If you are even a little bit wealthy and live in a first world country … the decline of the global world will be an inconvenience.
For the rest of the world, it will mean death, destruction, starvation and misery.
Every global societal failure in the historical past were all the same. The rich lost some of their power and got little uncomfortable. The poor died en masse.
I think a lot of doom and gloom haunts this era and leaves us blind.
We entered the information/disinformation age very recently of course it was going to be global chaos. I think it was necessary and good things are ahead.
Every generation believes the end is nigh, they’ve all been wrong but sometimes felt and saw and swear they were right. I’m sure as Rome burned and the Aztec empire fell and the black plague devoured they thought the end was here.
Yet here we are and how irrelevant their issues are today.
You know that between 50% and 90% of the population died in all three of the examples you listed, right?
You know there is a theory that a volcanic eruption reduced the human population down to 1-3,000 individuals?
Yet here we are.
Believe it or not, my criteria for prosperity is more than “literally somebody survives to propogate my species.”
This isn’t the comfort you think it is. If the bombs light up my horizon, I won’t be thinking “well, at least some remote tribe might continue a stone age humanity” while my entire family is consumed in a nuclear fire.
I’d probably be thinking “Well, fuck. That’s disappointing.”
just shrug at the mushroom cloud and go back to seeing how many upvotes my final meme got
Okay? I’m not offering comfort. It is simply true. We all die one day and worrying about the end of our society isn’t new.
My point is there will be cataclysm. That’s it.
Y’all are so argumentative and sensitive
Any source on that apart from the plague?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Death
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoliztli_epidemics
The Roman Empire one is a harder one, since it was a centuries-long process with plenty of plagues, wars and migrations. It’s not hard to find sources, however, that the city of Rome fell from 1 million to 30.000 ~ 60.000 people.
That’s kind of what triggered my question, there’s a common misunderstanding that the fall of Rome was something brutal and with few causes (that are selected by politicians when they want to scare people). I think Rome losing its population can be explained by emigration rather than people dying.
It all depends on your perspective and what position of society you occupy.
If you are even a little bit wealthy and live in a first world country … the decline of the global world will be an inconvenience.
For the rest of the world, it will mean death, destruction, starvation and misery.
Every global societal failure in the historical past were all the same. The rich lost some of their power and got little uncomfortable. The poor died en masse.