• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    It’s the voters responsibility to consider the repercussions of their choice and, unless you’re in a proportional system, to vote strategically to prevent the worst from happening.

    We’ve got that in Canada with people voting for Liberals so the Conservatives don’t get in power even though their real allegiance is to the Neo Democrats or the Bloc or the Greens. Now the same thing needs to happen in the USA where Biden might be financing Israel, but the alternative is Trump who will support Israel, stop supporting Ukraine and make women’s, LGBT’s and POC’s lives even worse than they are at the moment.

    So please, tell me how not voting for Biden or not voting for Biden isn’t basically the same as voting for Trump and supporting more genocide?

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      3 months ago

      Yes, voters will have to live with the choice they make. Putting their stamp of approval on Democratic complicity in genocide is something a voter would have to live with for the rest of their life. Enabling future democrats to behave in this same way, knowing that it presents no issue for their electability to be pro-genocide, will be something voters will have to live with.

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        3 months ago

        Do you think Trump, the only other choice would be any better for the people of Ukraine?

        He definitely wouldn’t do anything differently in Gaza, he’s already said as much.

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        3 months ago

        Putting their stamp of approval on Democratic complicity in genocide is something a voter would have to live with for the rest of their life.

        As well as being passive and letting a fascist take over who will do everything bad that the other guy will, but 1000% times harder. Not voting against it is putting a stamp of approval on it as well, since you didn’t care enough to try to stop it.

        Voters have to live with their choice no matter what, and inaction is a choice as well. Don’t vote for Biden if you want, but that’s still on your conscience if Trump is elected.

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            3 months ago

            How am I standing in the way? Because I don’t let people play the game of trying to pretend that not voting Biden when the literal only other option is trump is a moral choice? Or do you think I just post on Lemmy and call it a day? People can do both, and calling out behavior that makes things harder isn’t standing in the way, it’s trying to improve to things by convincing people to do the better of two bad options.

            Get the fuck out of here with your reductionist bullshit, or at least admit you don’t care as much about the victims of genocide as you want to pretend.

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            3 months ago

            Taking action without taking the only action that is guaranteed to make a difference is the same as not taking action at all.

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              Taking action that signals to Democrats that they can support genocide and get reelected is supporting that genocide yourself.

              See how that works?

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                3 months ago

                So you would rather see another genocide taking place in Ukraine along with the genocide that will continue in Palestine to send them a message?

                Guess you don’t really care about genocides and you’re just virtue signalling.