The comments by Khalil al-Hayya came amid a stalemate in months of cease-fire talks. But it's unlikely Israel would consider such a scenario.

A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

  • theotherverion@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    3 months ago

    You are posting images from aljazeera and calling them factual. You also keep talking about Nakba (which I condemn) but fail to present that roughly 900k jews were forced out of Arab countries.

    Your anti-Israel bias is truly unprecedented.

    • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 months ago

      The first image wasn’t from Al Jazeera, and both provide factual information. If you want to dispute a piece of information in the images, say what in particular and back it up.

      The Jewish exodus from Muslim Countries was indeed terrible. However, using it to legitimatize the Nakba or Apartheid is also terrible. Many prominent Israeli Historians criticize the “Jewish Nakba” narrative, as it’s called has been called, as being worse than the Nakba. There were certainly pogroms, property confiscation, and deportations against Jews in Islamic countries (considered push factors) which led to Jewish refugees to leave against their will. Notably in Iraq, Egypt, and Syria. However many decided to emigrate on their own accord, able to sell their property and move voluntarily. I’m also not aware of any Jewish refugees that are denied the right of return or citizenship.

      Yeah, I’m biased against genocide and Apartheid States, you got me there.

      • theotherverion@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        3 months ago

        So when it’s palestinians, they were forced out but when it’s jews, they left voluntarily and can freely return to Iran, Libya, Syria and totally won’t be killed…

        • Keeponstalin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          3 months ago

          That’s not what I said. I specifically said that there were certainly Jewish refugees; especially from Egypt, Iraq, and Syria. Besides Syria, yes as far as I can tell they can freely return. That doesn’t mean they would want to or that they should. UNHCR allows for repatriation for refugees, however as far as I’m aware the vast majority of Jewish refugees chose to live elsewhere due to persecution.

          However, saying all 850,000 Jewish people from the exodus were refugees is simply not true. Many voluntarily left due to pull factors such as the desire to fulfill Zionism or finding a better economic status and a secure home in either Israel, Europe, or the Americas. Many were able to sell their homes and move to where they wanted to.

          Historian Tom Segev stated: “Deciding to emigrate to Israel was often a very personal decision. It was based on the particular circumstances of the individual’s life. They were not all poor, or ‘dwellers in dark caves and smoking pits’. Nor were they always subject to persecution, repression or discrimination in their native lands. They emigrated for a variety of reasons, depending on the country, the time, the community, and the person.”

          • theotherverion@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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            3 months ago

            Some Palestinians also left because Muslim leaders said so whilst a lot of them were forced out. Same happened to Jews where in many muslim countries there are roughly zero jews out there. Leaving because you face oppression is literally the same as being forced out.

            But yes, when we are forcing out palestinians, it’s terrible but forcing out jews is completely fine…

            To summarize, I condemn both actions but needless to say, arab countries have no right to criticize Israel because they have done literally the same thing.