• riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      fyi because ppl often dont realise it:

      the bi in bisexual stands for both homosexual and heterosexual :33

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        Common misconception and many of us don’t like being portrayed that way. We are not half this, half that. We are our own thing.

        Many define bi as “attraction to more than one gender” and that’s it.

        Many folks like all genders. But for example some folks only like their own gender and enbys. Your definition would exclude those people. We do not like excluding people.

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          But for example some folks only like their own gender and enbys. Your definition would exclude those people.

          not true, liking ur own gender is homosexual and liking a enbies as someone who is not am enby is heterosexual. no exclusion there

          the definition i use is literally the original definiton of bisexual. this is not a common misconception.

          many of us don’t like being portrayed that way

          and many want to be portrayed by the definition i gave. the best educated on the topic bisexual i know uses this definition.

          if you dont want to use it for yourself, fine, but dont run around telling ppl its wrong. you are excluding ppl

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              wtf i never did that. i state a fact in a lighthearted way during a fitting moment and you come in here, accuse me of things i didnt do TWICE and refuse to argue any further

              again wtf??

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                Look, maybe you didn’t mean to be rude. I choose to believe that you didn’t want to insult people.

                Buy you are immensely rude. Denying peoples own definitions of sexuality and gender is rude.

                You say that liking enbies makes someone heterosexual. Which is wrong on multiple levels. I as a man can only be heterosexual if I exclusively am attracted to women.

                And enbies are not women, even if AFAB. They are neither man nor woman, that’s what makes them non-binary, that’s the point.

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                  ok, i see. this is a complete misunderstanding then.

                  i undersrand “heterosexual” as being attracted to a person of a different gender then one owns. this is what i operated on and i think if you go back and reread what i said, while keeping this in mind, this should clear up.

                  now, what you did here is exactly what you are accusing me of. you are imposing your definition of heterosexuality onto me and denying my own.

                  to your definition of heterosexuality. please keep in mind i am a nonbimary person myself. while i am not denying your definition to you and never did, i consider claiming that heterosexuality is inherently nonbimary exclusive quite binarynormative, bordering on nonbinaryphobic. heterosexuality is not just something for binary people.

                  And enbies are not women, even if AFAB. They are neither man nor woman, that’s what makes them non-binary, that’s the point.

                  if i were uncharitable, i could say, that your defnition for nonbinary is exclusing nonbinary men and women (which is an actual and valid thing ppl identify as) and denying peoples genders. i wont tho, because i get what you mean.

                  i hope you can understand how you behaved immendsy rude here. you attacked me seemingly without even trying to understand what i am saying and in the process multiple times did exactly what you accused me of doing, agruably in worse.

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                  I as a man can only be heterosexual if I exclusively am attracted to women.

                  “homo-” means same or similar. “hetero-” means different or other.

                  i am not usually the kind who immediately cites definitions of words, however in this case, this is how the prefix is used and understood all over the scientific world https://www.etymonline.com/word/hetero-

                  your definition of heterosexuality is very unusual to me and as a bisexual nonbinary woman, it definitely does not fit for me.

                  im curious tho, do heterosexual nonbinary ppl exist in your definition here? or is that mutually exclusive? and whats the equivalent of nonbinary ppl who arent attracted to other ppl of their own gender but only those of a different gender?

                  lastly,

                  And enbies are not women, even if AFAB. They are neither man nor woman, that’s what makes them non-binary, that’s the point.

                  nonbinary men and women exist and are valid gender identities.

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                    I have worded my definition of my sexuality badly, you are right. What I am trying to say is that I am not straight if I am not exclusively attracted to “the opposite” gender. If I am also attracted to my own gender, and ones outside the spectrum, I can’t be hetero.

                    I’m just sick of bi erasure in queer communities, being belittled by being called “half gay, half straight”. Or even “oh you’re just a cishet who wants to fit into queer spaces”.
                    No. I am bi. Not half this, half that, not pretending. Maybe pan if one wants to follow strict definitions.

                    I genuinely did not know about people who define themselves as non-binary men or women, could you help me understand? That breaks all I’ve learned from the admittedly few enby people I know, whose entire goal was not being binary.