• gregorum@lemm.ee
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    5 months ago

    I try not to predict the future. it took them a long time to get here. I they’e going to loop back around, I can’t see it happening again soon.

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      5 months ago

      I don’t think they’re going to loop back around soon, because I don’t think iMessage’s market share will explosively grow any time soon. From what I can tell, the only growth in the messenger space seems to occur on Snapchat, the rest seems to have stagnated.

      It didn’t take the EU a long time to get here at all. Last May companies were told to report in if their user base came close to 10% of the EU market (ignoring that request would be pretty bad, as in “periodic fines for 5% of worldwide daily revenue” bad). By July, the gatekeepers were notified. By September, the initial conclusion of gatekeepers was made. Now, all objections have been taken into account.

      That’s four months to appoint gatekeepers, and four months to complete the investigation and consider objections. In terms of regulations, that’s basically a snap decision, considering these regulations need to take into account the market share and applicable restrictions in 27 different countries.

      If Apple’s messenger market share doubles for some reason next month, and they do cross the threshold, they’ll have to have iMessage open to third parties before Christmas. It’s really not that big a deal.

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        5 months ago

        It’s not about the explosive growth (or not) of iMessage. It’s a matter of fact about the legal foothold that Apple now holds. That won’t be dislodged anytime soon. Whether or not Apple can get any market growth moving forward, now the EU will have to re-file any efforts to his law to them in the future should they try. That is a big deal. And nothing, anyone in the EU will try moving forward will have any near the weight this attempt did. 

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          5 months ago

          What legal foothold, exactly? The conclusion that their messaging service isn’t important enough to negatively affect the market?

          Whether or not Apple can get any market growth moving forward

          If they don’t grow, the EU won’t need to do anything, because the status quo remains.

          And nothing anyone in trying in the EU will move forward anything near the weight this attempt did.

          The commission that did the initial market research is legally obligated to continuously monitor markets. This isn’t a one-off thing, nor was it an “attempt” at anything. If the EU wanted iMessage to be opened up, they would’ve written the law better.

          The DMA is a law to protect against de-facto gatekeepers, and iMessage just isn’t important enough to be called a gatekeeper.

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            5 months ago

            the legalism has already been explained in the ruling. any further remarks and/or questions will be referred to the ruling and be regarded furthrupon as harassment and slander.

            what the EU courts do may be addressed with them directly. if you wrongly believe I have anything to do with that, I suggest you consult a mental health professional to address your hallucinations.

            The DMA is a law…

            I again suggest that you consult a psychiatrist too address your persistent hallucinations and delusions which clearly present an obvious threat to both yourself and those around you.

            I will be referring this and all previous and future correspondence to the UK Ministry of Health for the wellbeing of all citizens of the UK and the world.