robinnn [he/him]

A right wing nationalist movement of the past that supported a monarchy

You have no clue what you’re talking about. The monarchy was already leading, and the movement was aimed at combating the brutal imperialist exploitation of China, so was objectively progressive. Nationalism can be both a good (progressive) and bad (regressive) thing depending on the situation (development of the nation, relationship with other countries, etc.). Using right-wing in this sense is strange, because we could argue numerous historically progressive movements were “right wing” by today’s standards, it means nothing.

A corporate-controlled genocidal fascist who’s incapable of speaking is the ideal leader under liberalism. Saying mean things destroys democracyTM.

Can you actually explain the difference between the options and reconcile the fact that Hillary and the DNC purposefully elevated Trump behind the scenes (entire “lesser evil” rationale is a farce)? Thx!

It’s like I’m talking to a character in Disco Elysium who has two preprogrammed responses and maybe a third if I forget to wear a shirt. Completely off in your own world huffing nasal spray.

I’m arguing the U.S. is no less psychopathic and countries need protection from Western imperialism.

The US was the one that initiated it regardless, and I think China and Russia’s support for UN sanctions on Iran was incorrect.

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Saddam used chemical weapons on Iran and the U.S. helped him. Would you actually want a country like that to have nukes?

And the sanctions regime that brought Iran to the table in the first place was very difficult to forge, so that won’t be duplicated ever again.

Oh that’s awful it was so difficult to forge your apparatus for terrorizing the Iranian people.

All of your politicians represent the capitalist imperialist class. Remember the US overthrew Iran’s democracy and propped up a monarch in the 1950s and have continued to violate Iran’s sovereignty since. If they weren’t armed they would be a Western slave state like Libya.

Maybe don’t mindlessly say it requires cognitive dissonance to consider NATO (an organization that bombed Libya and supported anti-black rebels leading to an open-air slave market in the country, and armed/collaborated with Nazis and ethno-nationalists to sabotage left-wing movements in West Germany, Greece, Turkey, Italy, etc. (Operation Gladio)) an evil empire (and for slavery/against peace to use your 1984 comparison).

And yet, still the largest source of methane emission.

They also have the largest population. Per-capita they are not the largest source. It’s ridiculous to evaluate countries’ outputs without regard for the size of their populations.

As a product they can sell. Let’s not pretend like this has some altruistic motivation.

That’s true, and yet they also chose to massively subsidize their solar industry in order to meet climate goals.

Where is “the bad shit that China has done?” You still haven’t said anything about this.

The UN can’t enforce anything unless it’s against a US enemy state.

Yes they did.

In late October, Israel signed on to a joint statement of concern with more than 50 other governments about alleged Chinese crimes against humanity in its predominantly Muslim Xinjiang region.

LMAO

China is fundamentally opposed to any Israeli military operations, even in self-defense

No such thing?

that’s the thing with dictatorships.

Thanks for admitting you were being dishonest about his condition. China is not a dictatorship. You have no idea how their system works. There are committee elections at all levels where delegates are selected by the people (with tiers leading to the NPC), and the CPC (~1 in 10 eligible as members) leadership is determined by democratic centralism with elections at party committees and congresses up to the Central Committee.

I’m not denying the holocaust, your denying another genocide!

It’s not a genocide. Not only has nobody been killed (except by the US-backed terror attacks), Uyghur culture is uplifted in the media and on the ground. People have to rely on the shoddy research [1] [2] of a bigoted Christian nationalist that works for a US government foundation started by Nazi collaborators (Zenz), awful reports by the BBC where they are let into education facilities and openly distort information, and numerous NED-funded orgs or MIC thinktanks whose evidence amounts to nothing.

Regarding the former, Adrian Zenz and James Mulvenon (former member of the U.S. state adjacent Council on Foreign Relations and member of the National Committee on United States - China Relations, which along with the Defense Group Inc.—of which he is vice-president–provides military policy planning and assessments to the United States Government) affirmed some anonymously leaked ICIJ “China Cable” Documents, one of which is a top-secret telegram which the ICIJ describes as:

“…from the Communist Party commission in charge of Xinjiang’s security apparatus. The telegram, written in Chinese, is an operations manual for running the mass detention camps. It is marked ‘secret’ and was approved by Zhu Hailun, then deputy secretary of Xinjiang’s Communist Party and the region’s top security official.”

Clearly what we have here is a document meant for only the highest levels of the bureaucracy, one which will divulge the actual thought process and rationale behind re-education policy, and cannot be construed as propaganda.

The document begins with a set of guidelines for running the facilities. First is “[to] ensure that the training venue is absolutely safe].” The guidelines follow:

“It is strictly forbidden for police to enter the student zone with guns, and they must never allow escapes, never allow trouble… never allow food safety incidents and major epidemics, and they must ensure the training center is safe and free of risk”

“Through letter writing, phone calls, video chats, visits, meetings, etc., establish a mechanism for students and relatives to interact with each other, to that the ensure students will have a phone conversation with their relatives at least once a month, to make their family feel at ease and the students feel safe.”

“…every effort should be made to fix employment work for completed graduates to ensure the smooth development of students with employment aspirations. For those who don’t have the ability to work and have difficulties in life, it is necessary to coordinate grassroots organizations to seriously carry out assistance and relief work, and effectively solve practical difficulties.”

There are further notes on strict time management, preventing earthquakes and fires, and also measures to surveil all areas. These seem comparable to prisons, which is in line with the highest facilities being reserved for radicalized terrorists (bulletin No. 20 deals with those spreading violent propaganda / those who have joined terrorist organizations). When considering that the United States promoted terrorist radicalization in Xinjiang, such things lose isolation. The document outlines a very strict process, but one not mentioning forced anti-religious practices such as consuming pork or alcohol [The Independent 29 May 2018], organ harvesting [Falun Gong cult allegations], forced labor [U.S. Dept. of Labor], or physical abuse/torture (again, we cannot make a case of propaganda, because these are again purportedly top-secret documents).

Holy nonsense. The same Dalai Lama (THE Tibetan spiritual leader) has been alive since the liberation of Tibet, you don’t even know what you’re conveying. Also how can you say the child was imprisoned for life when we don’t know his whereabouts? His naming as the Panchen Lama was outside of customs and China may have taken him out of the situation so he couldn’t be exploited.

And that comparison is Holocaust denialist slop.

We’re not going to fix racism ever as long as the US exists as a settler-colonial state that keeps the majority of black people in worse conditions and imprisons them en masse. It’s not about rhetoric.

I still find that a lot easier to swallow than the GOPs constant tactics of direct voter suppression though

Don’t you get it? The Democrats are elevating Republicans so that they can do and campaign for these exact things which then motivates you to vote for the “lesser evil.”

For pushing denialists, here’s one source.

When was racism not normalized in the US? Wrt abortion, as I’m sure you know it was democrats who refused to codify Roe v. Wade and made it all the more easy for it to be torn down, Biden in the first place openly stating he’s not in favor of “abortion on demand.” The reason it wasn’t codified, though, is that it then couldn’t be used as a campaign strategy by the democrats in future elections. As I said earlier in the thread under this post, it’s well-known that Hillary and the DNC attempted to elevate Trump in the GOP as preferred opposition as well as democrats more recently funneling millions of dollars into the election campaigns of Republicans who deny the validity of the 2020 election results because this makes for what they believe is easy competition. It feels ridiculous to have to mention as well that Roe v. Wade was repealed under Biden’s presidency, and if Biden doesn’t have the power to reverse this then what are you campaigning for?