tag-following / tag-muting?

If you want to talk about fallacies, here are some good examples:

we would just handwrite an inferior solution from scratch rather than handle the bureaucracy.

Bandwagon Fallacy

If it was so much better, that it justified the price, it would outcompete the free one anyway.

Failure to understand basic microeconomics

I did not write 90% of the things you claim I did.

That is true and at the same time does not contradict my point. The whole discussion is about how MIT-style licensing is not as effective for software freedom as GPL licenses. And because you do not have anything to stand on to make an argument against the statement, you keep bringing points that do not address the main issue. When asked directly what you would do, you refuse to give a definite answer.

So what is your argument? Who is responsible for the decision-making process that leads to “hand writing an inferior solution”? Why do you think that this at all acceptable and reasonable?

You’ve been writing nothing but opinion-as-fact and resorting to wild rationalizations to justify your preferences, now you want to couch yourself under the questionable ethics of “it’s done this way and I can not fight it, so it must be the correct thing to do”?

Let’s make a simple test: if you were in charge and had the choice between spending some $$ to dual license a GPL package or to pay for the development of a GPL-only system vs paying $$$$ to do it in-house because you did not find a MIT/BSD package that does what you need, what would you do?

we would just handwrite an inferior solution from scratch rather than handle the bureaucracy.

What company are you working for whose leadership thinks that it is a better use of their time to reimplementing FOSS solutions just because they can’t get it “for free”?

There is no fundamental problem in working for free either. It’s second-order effects that we should worry about. Those who are “working for free” because they “just want have software being used by people” are diluting the value of the professionals and in the long term end up being as detrimental as professional designers or photographers who “work for exposure”.

If you ask me, the reason that is so hard to fund FOSS development is not because of bureaucracies, but because we are competing with privileged developers who are able to afford giving away their work for free.

I’m pretty sure that I got paid to work on GPL software, and I am pretty sure that said software would never have been developed if I was going to be paid for it.

What I don’t like is that the title minimizes the contributions of the MIT developers.

It’s not about the contribution. The MIT license still lets people study and share the code. It’s Free Software. The contribution is still there. The “problem” is that those contributions can be taken and exploited by large corporations.

You answer are reasonable justifications for why MIT is used, but they also work pretty well to illustrate the title of the post: If you are doing MIT, you are working for free. If you are working with GPL, you are working for freedom.

GPL means big corporations just won’t use it.

Great. No corporation is working on software for the freedom of its users.

they will just search for an alternative or make their own.

Or pay the developer to dual license, which can and should be the preferred way for FOSS developers to fund their work?

If you are the admin of the instance, you can it set up.

If you don’t have that problem, it is either because your instance is well connected and/or using some relay.

FWIW, all server-based software works like that. Lemmy, Pixelfed, Pleroma…

What we need is more clients implementing the C2S spec, but I will refrain from getting into another tirade about this.

I just pointed out “the old times” to respond to your idea that “it has always been this way”.

It’s funny how young people think that the world has been invented the moment they were born. Everything that came before that can be simply erased.

that it skews too much to the right.

Ok. According to you, extremism and othering is okay when done by a leftist.

Thank you very much for showing your true colors. You can go now…

Yeah, it would take one person on the bigger instances to do it. We can promote them in !newcommunities@lemmy.world and things should get bootstrapped.

Voting has always been about whether you agree or not with an opinion

No, that is absolutely false. Before Reddit’s Eternal September, voting was used as a way to signal quality content and it pretty much was followed by a good majority of the people.

Right-wing as in neo-nazi? I would not join a community in that server.

And this is precisely what people are talking about here. You might not see that way, but tankies are extremists. There are people that don’t want to join any conversation there, and therefore this is why they want alternatives.

Think of what?

It makes they think "what is so bad about this comment that it really warrants the downvote.

Does not voting against your post not count as compliance?

I didn’t ask you to remove the downvote. I asked you only to explain your reasoning, which is now quite clearly faulty.

It should: https://sh.itjust.works/c/jellyfin@poweruser.forum

Or do we expect people to hear about it by another mean?

Yes. Fediverser will help newcomers. Posting content in the “new communities” will help those already here. Everyone browses by all anyway, so the best way to promote new communities is by putting content there.

Do you think I can just keep the last comment in mind or something?

YES! It’s not like votes are worth anything here, but one of the reasons that voting mechanisms become completely useless as a way to signal quality conversations is when people blindly upvote/downvote everything just because they don’t like what is being said. People that do what you are doing end up showing more about themselves than about the one posting the comment that you didn’t like.

As does the drive to try and split communities

Would you feel so defensive about it if the communities were being hosted in a right-wing instance?

Why would tagging people who downvoted a post prevent a pile-on of downvotes?

Because it makes people think about what about the comment they are downvoting, instead of reflexively clicking on a button.

vote->get called-out seems to fit ‘blackmail’

It does not fit at all. I’m not trying to get anything out of you for my own benefit, and I am not doing it to submit you into compliance.

For that, I really have no answer other than “help with fediverser, stick with one community, and post as much as possible in the promoted communities”.

Don’t worry about it for now. I will do it until someone steps up for it. Also, don’t forget that I am actually working on tooling to make this job easier, so having any type of growing community would be an excellent way to find out the real pain point for moderators and work on the solutions.

I just created !jellyfin@poweruser.forum