I’m not sure you know the definition of “selling out”

Edit: spelling

This guy gets downvoted, but it’s clearly just sarcasm right?

Right?

Vivaldi browser isn’t though.

I’m guessing he means “it’s proprietary”.

Not much on their privacy policy seems to be “privacy-first”

The difference between Proton/Tuta is that they’re self-sustainable and has been around for 10+ years. While they’re not Google/Outlook, they’re not startups like Skiff was. They don’t have investors waiting for a solid ROI, and while both companies marketing/communication has been misleading, there are no signs that either would have the same end goal as Skiff (i.e. sell out and cash in).

I’d sleep with one eye open

Why should we be equally suspicious to Proton and Tuta?

Haven’t been on reddit in ages, but with his active presence in the forum on PG I can see him going on there too. Marketing works and people were actively looking for reasons to find alternatives to primarily Proton, which he clearly knew and took full advantage off.

Hopefully there’ll be a mass exodus from Skiff, and in the end a bad deal for Notion, that will discourage these kinds of money grabs in the future.

Sad for the people who got tricked into their services from their aggressive marketing. Their CEO seemed very eager to do the right thing on the privacyguides forum, but clearly the plan was to sell as soon as he got a decent offer.

Oh, I use onlyoffice, it was just a silly joke that they weren’t mentioned :)

No love for the onlyoffice gang

I agree. I do trust session as well, even if their “marketing” on mastodon is rather unprofessional.

It does however hurt serious actors when they get mentioned on sites that spam and claim to be serious like the one you mentioned. I hope that the mods here will clear up their spam posts

It might also be the YouTube link

Wasn’t Ghostery bought by a data broker/ad company?