Fair, let me update it, you are correct. Early morning brain didn’t verb correctly.

In what way? I am Canadian, so this question is very odd.

Yes, he’s a nepotism baby, his father was PM in the 70s.

But he’s the leader of a center left party. He has been in power a long time, but in a minority government. He dropped his promise to change election laws and lead the government to legalize weed. He should have been a lot better on the environment but also wasn’t (blatantly) hostile to environmental causes.

He was caught doing black face in the past and his government was too nice to SNC Lavalin. But again, he didn’t deny it.

Heck, we had truckers convoy across the country with swastikas and occupy our capital to try and oust him. So our version of Jan 6th was anti Trudeau, versus being lead (or spurned on) by Trump.

So its not a 1 to 1 to Trump. He’s closer to Clinton in that he’s a slimy politician who does some good things but clings too hard to the status quo and has some skeletons in the closet.

Normally I’d agree, however they mentioned alcohol fires can be invisible, so I think it’s a design flaw in this case. That said, I may be wrong, as my wife is in charge of Fire in our marriage.

I appreciate you posting that. My late ex fil did the same thing. Had a total conspiracy minded friend. Was always awkward I had to be the one to say “No, Trudeau didn’t do that.”

At least he was nice and respectful about it. My cousins on the other hand… well, I get very high at family gatherings now.

Totally fair points. Probably next to impossible. Wish I could find those articles, but oh well. I just don’t see this being good for future hiring at Meta at the end of the day.

100% agree on your first point.

I would caution your second point. A few years ago, news articles pointed out Meta had to pay people more compared to other similar companies due to people not wanting to work there. Sadly Google search isn’t showing me those older articles.

A few websites are saying Meta’s average pay is 379k (Zuckerberg takes a $1 so he isn’t driving that number) vs Google at $315k vs Microsoft $193k vs Nvidia 267k. That’s a lot of difference. So running a company like a pedant has a real dollar difference, especially for workers who can demand it. Meta lost a lot of money on the Metaverse and they are spending to catch up AI, meaning they already have to be competitive for employees compared to other companies. Add in the perks are a trap to get fired, and your costs just keep going up. Perks are typically offered in lieu of higher costs and in this case incentive people to work longer in an office. Now they leave for food or go home and you have lost those benefits.

I agree, this stinks of petty gotcha, which is why i dont think its a good idea, as remaining employees with devalue those perks and stop working for Meta as a result.

And yes, these are perks above all else, but remember Meta created these incentives to keep people in the office longer without having to pay them (a lot) more. A few people abusing it in order to ensure the majority of workers stay nights and weekends (at small satellite offices) is a small price. Now? “Hey, worker X, staying late tonight?” “No, going home to eat, don’t want to make a mistake on ordering Uber Eats and get fired” means you don’t get 5-40 hours per week extra time from that worker X. And you already paid for the vouchers, so you don’t save money. Also other workers won’t stay because more people leave.

Granted we are talking Mark Z here, so eating food is probably too alien for him to understand.

Oh, it’s terrible. The entire policy is Bananas. And you can’t pool funds? So if it is 3 people, $75 worth of pizza will feed them for a long time. But they got fired for pooling them.

How much time were the Accountants spending verifying this? Or did workers just receive vouchers? If a handful of people were abusing it, how did they notice? No refunds on vouchers, so you’d assume an amount of late nights and then refill as needed. It was already budgeted, so it’s a sunk cost.

Also in some places I’ve worked, $25 after the delivery costs isn’t that much food either. I’d be ignoring that perk forever if I still worked there, too much red tape.

I’m reminded of a video from Gary Vee where he had a small moment of reality: Some guy was complaining his employee quit 3 weeks after starting because they were all lazy. Also note it was always his only employee.

Gary asks him how much they paid the employee (min wage) and if he demanded they work over 40 hours (yes and no ot), then pointed out the guy was walking home with all the money and expecting someone to work hard with no return.

The entire audience was confused. Now they are in these comments.

Really depends on how valuable all of the staff are. I too have seen theft of small and large offices I’ve worked in. Personally didn’t buy pens until I started working from home. I also did the accounting and budgeting for office supplies and products from the product line (beer), which sometimes had free samples taken from it. Executives loved to grab samples daily. We ensured this was added to employees paychecks as a perk for tax purposes, but not down to the individual beer. We also had talks with anyone who took over their fair share.

The cost always came down to pennies per person. Their value as a worker was typically more valuable then micromanaging them and creating an environment where they were punished. Average employee made more for the company daily then what they took home. If they knew it was fine within some limits (which most did and I would argue these Meta workers were within given their pay/value of the company), it’s actually better to just ignore it.

Now the remaining employees and future employees know any mistake could cost them their job, with no major warning, just 2 strikes and your out.

When you take this personally (“violating your trust”), you end up creating a shitty place to work to soothe your ego.

I don’t think Meta thought this through, unless the staff already know you can be fired for small things like this. Sure, they stretched what you are supposed to spend money on, broke the rules, fine. Fuck around, find out, not something i do professionally. But it’s $25. You’re a 1.5$ trillion company. It comes off as petty.

If I was still working at Meta, I’d be job hunting. And maybe that’s what they want. Maybe they need to downsize some more.

But eventually Meta will have the minimum amount of staff and need to grow again or necessary people will leave, and when they try to hire people they may find this article and demand more money to make up for the pettiness or they won’t apply, because no one likes to be under a microscope.

People are used to adding periods so they just add it in.

Source: My middle name is a letter.

USMCA, like I’d you coughed while orgasming.

Biker runs into a bale of hay. Driver corrects himself.

Yup. We keep learning the same thing over and over: Don’t hero worship people, demand they be better and stay better or don’t support them.

He will eventually do something that will make the OP situation look like nothing, just like Elon, Joanne, or Trump. It’s just a matter of time.

You should demand better then either, neither should be in charge of a sandwich shop, let alone a country.

My guess is in 10 years we will see him run for president similar to Trump. This won’t end well.

I say this as a millennial who drinks and actually did whisky tasting as my main hobby with reviews for 12 years; I get it. I worked with and in the alcohol industry. They have no clue. It’s all ego and razor thin margins and old ways of running a business. They are heavily resistant to change of any sort. They will not be able to handle this at all.

Add to that they are owned by rich people as vanity projects who want their ROI ASAP at levels that healthier margin/growth industries could barely achieve and we will start seeing them disappear. Which is too bad, because it’s centuries of tradition in some cases, and I find it tasty.

Nailed it. She was notorious for that.

Had a VP who was forced to do this (but with commercial flights) 15ish years ago. It was hell and she quit after 4 months. Management was surprised due to their inability to understand people or reality.