Hard disagree. Those who didn’t vote said exactly what they stood for. Dems had the power, and completely ignored it and didn’t get voted in as a result.

If you’re blaming non-voters you’re just causing unnecessary division amongst the left. The US has been fascist for a long time. And everything happening has been a long time coming. Trump is a symptom, not the cause.

I love how you act like you know me. You don’t, but it’s cute.

I’m actively donating to causes and keeping updated/reporting ICE raids as they happen in the area. What about you?

I’m saying that not supporting genocide is a principled choice. You not agreeing with that is your problem.

Like you’ve been doing this entire thread? Lmao

I’ll actually be with my community and fighting along side them when it happens. Not putting some paper in a box and expecting a fascist to disappear forever like you.

Imagine thinking voting was an available avenue against fascism.

You believe voting works against fascism. Your opinion is irrelevant to me.

And you went out and achieved nothing at all. Because you were too bothered about how people voted over bringing your community together for when fascism finally came to your door.

K.

Voting either way was supporting the eradication of Palestinians. That’s the point your thick skull can’t comprehend. Again, this was inevitable because of democrats and people like you that stoke leftists division.

Maybe you should focus on actually connecting with your community and organzing. Rather than trying to assign blame where there isn’t any.

This car has been heading towards that cliff for 8+ years now. Meanwhile I, and every other voter, are in the trunk. Unable to do anything outside of shout from the trunk what we want. Short of breaking free there’s nothing that can be done. Those that can actually stop the car won’t bother.

Biden was still sending those bombs during their administration. So no, the genocide is pretty much as supplied as it ever was.

You’re turning this whole conversation into this weird fucking purity test. Meanwhile you’re either too blind or stupid to see that fascism has been here in the US. I’ve done protests, I’ve done voting, I’ve donated to causes that are anti-thetical to Trump and his laws. And guess what? Fascism is still here. Want to know why? Because none of that fucking does anything under a fascist government.

Because guess what? Fascism isn’t something you can vote out. Anyone that knows about the history of fascism knows that.

It was objectively noble, it didn’t support genocide. Meanwhile democrats did nothing to stop fascism or genocide and I’m supposed to blame non-voters for this? You all think voting would magically save us. As if it wouldn’t just be another 4 years before the next “biggest election of our lifetimes.”

Also, just like where you’re placing your blame, your assumption is wrong.

Conservatives wouldn’t let Trump be put rightfully in prison according to you. And I’m supposed to believe voting actually does anything?

You’re incredibly naive and ignorant

And I’m telling you, yet again, non-voters are in no way culpable. It was Biden’s job, and then Kamala’s job to gain voters. And they both did so terrible we ended up with Trump again. And again, if you think voting will save the US from fascism you’re incredibly naive.

Also, it was never irrelevant. Again, the Supreme Court gave Biden immense power through their official acts ruling. He did absolutely nothing with it. He could have thrown Trump in prison and said tough shit. But he didn’t, and now we have Trump again.

Erroneously passing the buck onto principled non-voters doesn’t address Biden or Democrats inability to do anything during their tenure about Trump. And as of right now the Israeli genocide is as armed now as before Biden was in office. You can look at my other comments for sources.

You can feel however you want. But ultimately those with power failed you. And if you thought voting was going to save the US you’re incredibly naive. The fascist streak in the US was never going to end with Trump. What we’re seeing now is horrifically inevitable. Simply because those in power did nothing to stop it.

In regards to the Israeli genocide. Reading comprehension helps, so I’d use that if I were you. And what exactly did Biden do to stop Trump from doing literally any of this? He could have had Trump arrested and that would have been that since he’s a president and it’s an official act.

Then, when he was polling terribly after his first debate, he forced Kamala to be the only option for the Dems. The Democratic party didn’t even have a democratic primary. And somehow this is voters fault?

And what safeguards did Biden/Dems put into place to protect immigrants or trans people huh? Oh that’s right, absolutely fucking nothing. Because they don’t care about trans people or immigrants, they’re just talking points for Dems.

You can blame people with principles all you want. But Biden did nothing about Trump for 4 years. Everything that’s about to happen is on him. And in the future his name will be spoken in the same way that James Buchanan is.

Did they make it worse? Legitimately, what did Biden do to stop the genocide outside of claiming to stop sending bombs that his administration still sent anyways? Seems like it’s the same as it ever was in terms of the genocide.

I have no idea how you can blame non-voters when Biden held all power and still did absolutely nothing for his or Kamala’s campaign.

They are not. And this is an excuse to take responsibility from Biden and his administration. Trump should be in prison But Biden’s administration was the one tasked with doing that and did fuck all. Even when the Supreme Court gave him absolute power to do anything as president, he still didn’t bother to arrest Trump.

Democrats in power don’t actually give a shit about the issues they pretend. And those that would vote for them are tired of excuses.