Doug [he/him]

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  • It began with the forging of the Great Rings.

    Three were given to the Elves; immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings.

    Seven to the Dwarf Lords, great miners and craftsmen of the mountain halls.

    And nine…Nine rings were gifted to the Race of Men, who above all else desire power.

    For within these rings was bound the strength and will to govern each race.

    But do you recall… The most famous one ring of all


  • Doug [he/him]@midwest.socialtoComic Strips@lemmy.worldJPEG
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    8 months ago

    I’ve never had the problem of not being understood.

    You are either a uniquely spectacular communicator or a liar. It’s not for me to say which. Regardless that’s not the point. If you use the soft g sound and are not understood then, by your own explanation you are saying it wrong. That’s something you need to contend with.

    And regardless of how long the time period was

    So no time requirement on archaic then?

    there was a time when one guy spoke aloud the word when he invented it.

    As is true of every word and yet I’m sure there are words you say differently than the first person. I’ll bet you don’t say the name of the element with the atomic number 13 the same way the man who discovered it does. Not to mention who knows how many words England took from France, mangled, and then got adjusted again in America. Who is the correct first person there, or does the first person only matter with this specific issue?

    You can use the new pronunciation

    I will as well many others.

    as I have for 30+ years,

    Me too! Still doesn’t make yours right and mine wrong no matter how hard you try to deride it as “new” when it’s barely newer than the format.

    and I will continue to do so

    I can’t stop you. I can think you ridiculous for doing so but my suspicion that this would be the only reason I would think that of you diminishes with each response you send.

    both are acceptable

    Perhaps, but one seems to be falling out of favor. Just like a double space after a period or writing out words greater than ten but less than one hundred.

    I could call it a moving picture and not be wrong, doesn’t mean people wouldn’t think me weird for doing so. I would have to deal with that the way you need to deal with what your choices cause people to think of you.

    If you don’t like it, that’s a you problem.

    Sure, but it won’t stop me from making my own conclusions just like any other thing. The same is true for all of humanity to varying degrees.


  • Doug [he/him]@midwest.socialtoComic Strips@lemmy.worldJPEG
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    8 months ago

    people only started using the new pronunciation in the last 10-15.

    As someone else pointed out already, this is untrue. While it may not have been popular in your circles, it definitely was in others. I’ve been saying it with a hard g as long as you have with a soft and I’m not the originator either.

    English linguistics doesn’t indicate anything at all.

    They absolutely do. That’s why you can sound out a word you’ve never seen before. You may not always be right when you do because they indicate, they don’t define.

    There are no rules about word construction or pronunciation.

    There are, there are just exceptions. For example, an e at the end of the word is silent. I’m certain you can give me a word where it’s not, but there are at least six in this paragraph alone where it is.

    if you are understood then you have pronounced them correctly

    In this logic if someone has been pronouncing a word all their life with a single pronunciation and travels to another location with a much different accent they can only now be pronouncing the word wrong.

    If understanding is also the only metric then a hard g would still be preferable. Not only does a written g tend to make people lean to a hard g in my experience, but there’s more words that could be mistaken for a soft g pronunciation.

    You could argue that the original pronunciation is archaic,

    Could I not argue that the original pronunciation has fallen out of favor?

    the word itself is like 35 years old

    Is there a time requirement for pronunciations to become archaic?

    since there was only one acceptable pronunciation

    Which isn’t a time that existed, as we’ve established

    who aren’t likely to change.

    Given your stance on language this is absolutely a you problem. If the rest of us collectively decided to understand it as only with a hard g, you would not be understood and therefore be pronouncing it wrong by your own logic.


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    8 months ago

    Telling me not to is what makes English worse.

    In your opinion. “Jiggawatt” is not a common English pronunciation outside of back to the future references at this point. People mostly settled on one over the other because it makes sense to pronounce a word a similar way to be more easily understood. It’s not always the case, sure, but I think you’ll find multiple pronunciations are the exception, not the rule. That’s why you can come up with a good handful of such words, but you’ll be using words with single pronunciations to talk about them.


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    8 months ago

    Become popular? It’s been popular roughly for the lifespan of the format. It’s hardly language’s fault the developer wanted to make an unfunny reference to a since forgotten peanut butter slogan.

    On the other hand linguistics indicate a hard g sound with the construction of the word, constituent words aside. Plenty of four letter words starting with the gi combo have a hard g, including but not limited to gift which you may notice is very similarly constructed.

    Whatever else the English language may throw at us, people appreciate consistency because we can make some sense of the world. A hard g is the consistent, predictable, sensible choice for the limited availability of those virtues English offers.











  • grow up and use the block feature.

    I’m really sick of this talking point. If history hasn’t demonstrated to you that ignoring a problem doesn’t resolve the problem then you take ought to go back and read some more.

    If you can’t stand to be bothered by others trying to carve out consideration for your fellow humans then I’m glad this may be our only interaction.


  • Computing resources got cheaper so development didn’t need to be as careful.

    If one month you have $100 for food, but the next month you’ll have $2000 are you still going to eat like you’ve got $100? Of course not!

    But another part of the problem is that when development was slim you also weren’t running very many things at once. I can remember writing different autoexec.bat and config.sys files to boot straight into whatever game I was going to play. Most to all of the resources were available.

    Now we’re constantly running a handful of things. The OS itself is huge, plus a browser that you haven’t closed with a handful of tabs, plus the app for the store you bought the game from, and whatever else is in the background, and so on. So you feel the drag more because everything wants as many resources as it can grab before something else does.