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  • Atyno@dmv.socialtopolitics @lemmy.worldTrump’s GOP is already dying
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    6 months ago

    A lot of folks here are rightfully pessimistic about this being the actual end, considering the past history of articles like this.

    I’d like to present the possibility that the GOP is crumbling BECAUSE of why those years weren’t the end for the GOP like articles predicted: Trump is inflicting the same institutional damage to the RNC Obama inflicted on the DNC. The same kind of damage that gave an opening for Republicans to revitalize themselves.

    The only problem is whether if there will be enough rot by this year’s election: the biggest evidence of the DNC’s shrivelling under Obama’s shadow was the 2016 election where Hillary basically saved them from death in exchange for fealty. It’s not entirely clear if the 2010 losses were from early damage or just the upswell of reactionary outrage to Obama’s presidency.




  • I feel like it was that gunning down incident with the humanitarian aid that ultimately tipped the scales.

    I know I’ve been going on defense for Israel a lot recently, but I am kinda playing messenger boy as a neutral for being both here and some pro-Israel groups. The Michigan vote didn’t really phase them, that incident did. Seen them even sharing more info about how ridiculously strict Bibi is with aid in general.


  • But you did say 2008, you said it was a “similar” result. I’m not going to contest the anomalous nature, but the result itself is not similar at all!

    My point is that I don’t agree, the numbers are only consistent for 2016/2020 (because turns out most people won’t waste time with an uncommitted vote when there’s a viable opposition candidate: Bernie). 2012 is a deviation and in the same way this primary did. The only thing different is the absolute number of votes altogether (in a state that has had insignificant population growth mind).


  • You can’t honestly tell me 39% is closer to 13% than 10%. 3% is not significant, it’s an error margin on a poll.

    The significant part is the absolute numbers, but that comes with caveat that the Biden vote was 3x Obama’s in 2012 (and is 80% of the vote, which is a little less because of unviable candidates so unfortunately there’s a little muddying).

    Honestly, the whole thing is kinda proving to me the pro-palestine movement still isn’t really big in the US despite the optics. Or, at the very least, there’s still a large pro-Israel contingent that dwarfs them. And probably why Biden’s been ignoring them.


  • The percentage is more important, and it’s basically the same size as 2012 which is the appropriate comparison (2016 and 2020 had other, viable candidates to vote for).

    Numbers are higher… But that’s the issue isn’t it? Seems to me an even larger portion of voters came out to “anti-protest” the protest voters too.





  • I stayed awhile longer, but prepped for the worse that came yesterday.

    Honestly, I think it did impact the content objectively for the worse. Now that I’m fully moved into Lemmy I’m recognizing that a bunch of subreddits basically declined into irrelevance after the blackout (and I’m only remembering them as I try to recreate my subscription list here).

    And it kinda affected the vibe of the front page. As of now, I’d describe current reddit as very meta-naval gazing. So many of the posts are basically rival subreddits going “nuh-uh” and “yuh-huh” to each other. There may also be a new algo in use that’s basically encouraging fights between subreddits?

    Edit: I should clarify, I think there’s objectively less actual content with now the literal same content being posted multiple times but with different takes on it.