• cordlesslamp@lemmy.today
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    There’s a non-zero chance Trump will call them “losers”. Maybe not right now, but sometimes in the future.

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    Why would she? Her loser husband died, what loser. Trump got shot he didn’t die.

    Jokes aside, I wish her and her family the best and offer my condolences. No one deserves to lose a loved one like that.

  • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.comOP
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    I would like to state unequivocally that the wife of the Trump supporter that got shot at the Trump rally is not a crisis actor.

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    CNN reports:

    Helen told the Post that President Joe Biden tried to call her, but she declined to speak to him since her husband ‘was a devout Republican, and he would not have wanted me to talk to him.’

    But she added that she does not hold the current president responsible for what happened to her family.

    ‘I don’t have any ill will towards Joe Biden,’ she said. ‘I’m not one of those people that gets involved in politics. I support Trump, that’s who I’m voting for, but I don’t have ill-will towards Biden.’

    Let’s see:

    1. Decides who to ignore calls from based on her husband’s wishes

    2. Claims to not be involved in politics, yet supports a certain candidate

    Yep, that’s a garden-variety republican.

    The important takeaway here is that Biden made an effort to reach out.

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      Ok my respect is quickly dropping for these buffoons caught in the crossfire. But it’s like interviewing an attendee from a nazi rally, what should I expect? Critical thinking? Morals? Hah!

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        Why would you have any respect for Trump supporters going to a Trump rally? Just because they were unlucky? They’re still shitty people.

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          It’s a little more complicated for me considering my family once was Republican during Bush’s first term. Rural, Appalachian, Pennsylvanian. I know some of these people most likely. Dumb people who know no better. Manipulated by rich interests. Feeling many pressures no doubt but too uninformed to point the finger at the right problem.

          They Thought Were Free is a great book that explores this ignorance endemic in the Third Reich.

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            Ok, I get that you have a strong desire to humanize them. But humanizing someone doesn’t mean you automatically respect them, other than affording them the basic level you’d give any other semi-sentient being. What is there to respect in people who cheer on an addlepated, narcissistic, fascist manbaby?

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              Yeah I’ll admit respect probably wasn’t the best choice for words, but as a father I respected his shielding his family from bullets, which is probably led to use of that word.

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      “The President of the United States of America called me, and my turd of a husband told him to fuck off. Oh, but I don’t get involved in politics…“

      Yeah, right lady. Your son just tried to assassinate someone running for president, your president just basically told the current president to go fuck himself, and you say nothing. You don’t think that’s taking a position? Fuck you.

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          Explain how that makes any fucking difference, and also respond to my original point while you’re at it

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            Your original point is a straw man fallacy, and thus deserves no response. Get your facts straight before you give us any more of this vitriolic attitude please.

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            If you could stop being a prick for 10 seconds you might notice that I already did respond to your original point.

            How can your expect anyone to take your argument seriously when you mix up the wife of a murder victim with the mother of a murderer and then respond by being a defensive asshole when corrected?

          • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world
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            It’s entirely possible that one day someone on the internet might say something like, “oops, I got that wrong, my bad” but today is not that day.

            Better to just act like a brat.

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      To bad he doesn’t make an effort to call any of the families who had family members killed by illegal immigrants

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            He has made others. MANY others that are equally as dumb. You’ll have to check the mod logs to see them- as they’ve been removed because they’re just that fucking stupid.

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        So you have time to make up shit about illegal immigrant mass murders but you can’t respond to my receipts of the Heritage Foundation call to hatred when you first got on the Lemmy bloc? Lemmy dont forget anything but meme reposts, son. Where’s them links on those illegal immigrant murder victims not getting a call from Biden? I want them.

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      One day she’ll realize that after her husband was killed, the candidate she supports cared more about his shoes than about him.

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        Sadly, she won’t realize shit. These people don’t have revelations about who they support politically. They bury their heads in the sand eternally. I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.

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          I still know people who are die hard George W Bush supporters and think he was the best president we’ve ever had.

          Honest question: do those folks say that because of how that campaign and presidency made them feel at the time, or is it honestly based in policy, politics, or something else tangible? Thank you.

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            Honestly, it’s a mixed bag of all three. For some, the nostalgia of that time is very strong and for others they feel like GWB embodied the best of the Republican party(which says so much about the Republican party). And some are just bullshit contrarians who want to shut the people up who tout Obama and Biden’s accomplishments.

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        I’m glad I’m not the only one repeating this.

        He was more concerned about his shoes than:

        Following simple directions Getting off stage Acknowledging his staff was in danger Getting the fuck away from danger Asking about anyone else being injured Leaving the scene

        You know…NORMAL FUCKING SHIT

        But no, he needed to stand on stage AND at his get away vehicle to throw his fist up like he personally took down the gunmen.

        I cringed watching the SS try to get him to safety and he refused. I was just hoping no one else was going to get shot while he tried to be some kind of “hero”.

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      People using devout to describe their political views unironically is the scariest thing I’ve read today.

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      1. Not involved in politics, simply supports the same party as her husband without questioning it

      Just as the republicans want how women should vote?

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      I think it’s also important to note that we didn’t hear about this from Biden’s camp. They did their job cause it was the right thing to do, not for some publicity stunt.

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      “Devout Republican” is also pretty telling. These people aren’t politically Conservative, they are religiously Republican. They worship their party and its leaders, and just like religion, they never require evidence for anything they believe.

      Conservatism is not an ideology for smart people or critical thinkers.

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      He did just get shot. Maybe once the adrenaline wore off he wasn’t in too great of shape. His age and poor health won’t be helping him bounce back quickly.

      I won’t begrudge someone their favorite hobby after getting shot, even if they are an asshole.

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          I’ve never been shot. I don’t know how much it sucks.

          He might be in worse shape than we’re led to believe. He might have lost hearing in that ear. He might be unable to focus on conversations. I don’t know.

          I suspect we’ll hear him mention it when he’s ready.

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            Not that I work in an ER or anything but his injury isn’t even the most gruesome one I’ve seen this week. I’m sure it doesn’t feel great, but it’s not THAT bad of an injury.

            I agree that he’s in worse shape than we’ve been led to believe. He clearly can’t focus on conversations (just ask any of his former cabinet)

            I suspect that we’ll hear about it once the media outcry starts making him look bad.