• ElmarsonTheThird@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    Even though I knew the context, I’m kinda scared that might happen here too (we don’t have that much guns here, but people have ways…). Just remember what happened to Shinzo Abe in Japan, where gun laws are very strict and the shooter just went and built a blunderbuss.

    Whatever the reasons of that certain shooter, it’s plausible that some ultra-right nutjob would want to kill Weidel because of her being “not extreme enough” or her homosexuality (that’s a fact, btw.) and accidentially make her a martyr.

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      Germany and France in particular are worrying cases when it comes to Europe because the have a sizable far left and far right that can be unhinged at times. What’s worse is that there a good amount of whackos that are even further left than the fringe far left Marxist parties and the fringe neo Nazi parties.

      In the case of Germany, it’s pretty plausible that some infinitely far right neo Nazi would try assassinate her because she’s a lesbian or some infinitely far left Marxist would try the same because she’s the leader of the Afd or perhaps some crazy jihadist would try to assassinate her because she’s both a woman and a lesbian.

      I hope Europe in general tries to keep the lunatics out of power and continue to have pragmatic people rule. I don’t want Europe to go through what we’re going through with the Republicans right now. The end result would be something like Hungary with Orban, and nobody wants that.

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          At the moment? None, but East Germany used to be a part of the eastern bloc, and there’s still an uncomfortable amount of far left whackos that want that era back. They’re not as popular as Afd right now because the big issue in the country at the moment is immigration, and Afd’s platform is more much more hardline on that which is more appealing to the whackos than what the far left is offering.

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            East Germany used to be a part of the eastern bloc, and there’s still an uncomfortable amount of far left whackos that want that era back

            East Germany is the base of the AfD, precisely because post-unification Germany did such a good job of blaming the far-left for the country’s economic problems. Past that, I’m not even sure what constitutes “uncomfortable amounts”, as it seems any number higher than zero gets blamed every time Olaf’s (Not Particularly) Green Party tumbles in the polls.

            Are you thinking of the Antideutsche movement? Because that camp has support numbers in the high hundreds on a good day. AfD will have more seats in Parliament than Antideutsche can turn out to a street protest by the next election cycle.

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              No, I’m talking about the actual far left. The Afd has more momentum atm, but there has always been presence of both the far right and far left in East Germany. Here’s some bits of an interesting article from September 2023 by Bloomberg that demonstrates what I’m talking about:

              A fifth of German voters would consider backing a new party that may be established by a far-left politician who has opposed weapons deliveries to Ukraine, according to a poll published Monday.

              Sahra Wagenknecht of the Left party — which traces its roots to East Germany’s communist party — has said she will make a decision on whether to set up a breakaway group by the end of this year.

              Wagenknecht’s move is potentially significant, since she could potentially woo voters away from the far-right Alternative for Germany, which is leading in the polls in the three eastern German regions due to hold elections next fall.

              Among AfD voters, 29% said they could contemplate backing Wagenknecht, compared with 55% of Left voters, according to the Sept. 15-20 YouGov poll of 2,134 people. At 29%, potential support for Wagenknecht is higher in eastern Germany than in the west, where it’s at 19%, the poll showed.

              Source: https://archive.is/20230925113239/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-25/fifth-of-germans-open-to-backing-new-far-left-party-poll-shows#selection-4885.0-4885.13

              That’s quite a bit of overlap. The far left isn’t exactly dead in East Germany as you seem to describe it, and neither is the far right. They work in tandum alongside jihadists to keep normal Germans up at night. That’s why Germans constantly protest extremism and vote in guys like Scholz.