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    I’m 1 and watch every day, though i read many books too, so everything balances out, also my work requires a lot of improvisation that makes you think on problem solving, so positive impact is bigger

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    yes because most of the time, it feels better to be able to turn my brain off.

    But I am able to use stuff like AI Dungeon as an alternative if I need it.

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    I was a 5 before my head injury, now I think I’m a 3 if I close my eye and really focus on it.

    But also? I’ve liked adult literature the entire time. “Visualization” is overrated.

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      Wow, care to tell more about what that was like? I’m aphantasic, and the idea of suddenly unlocking the ability to visualize is fascinating to me.

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        I couldn’t visualize even slightly before! Total aphantasia.

        Now if I focus really hard I can briefly see images and memories. It still doesn’t come naturally but the difference is staggering.

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    I’m a 1. I was today years old when I learned that there are people who can only visualize the outline of an apple, nothing at all, or anything other than a fully 3D rendered apple like in a computer generated image. To answer your question, no I don’t!

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      I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.

      Do you have an internal dialogue? Or is it all visual? Cuz my internal world is basically a lightly illustrated book, 95% dialogue and occasionally I can imagine a vague image.

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        I remember when I learned people weren’t just being metaphorical when they talked about “picturing” something in their mind.

        I had that same reaction. “You mean you can see it? No like, really see it, not just think about seeing it? What the fuck?”

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          When i zone out, i can have full conversations with people ive never met in my mind while walking to work.

          Basically flying blind through traffic, unless something relevant registers on my “conscious” mind.

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            These conversations that never happened don’t always go well, so I whish I could have less of them.

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            It’s funny, really, because aphantasia is supposed to be fairly rare, but every time a thread like this comes up, folks come out of the woodwork saying “Oh, yeah, that’s me.” Makes me wonder if it isn’t a lot more common than believed, but people just don’t realize they have it. There don’t seem to have been any real studies done on it.

            I can have conversations in my mind, but there’s no visuals associated with it. It’s like a radio broadcast vs. a TV program. I can think about the description of an object, and recite back its physical qualities, but I can’t visualize that object at all.

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          I can see it, separate it into parts, rotate it around, put it back together, etc etc. I design things entirely in my head visually before actually building them. I assume that’s how most engineers/artists operate.

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            Yeah, I’ve always been a shit artist for I assume the opposite reason; I can think of a thing in a macro sense, like "I want to draw [thing], it has these features’, but when it comes time to actually draw those features, I can’t pinpoint exactly what they look like. It’s like reading a few sentence description of a tree, and then trying to draw one purely based on that description - you can get a general sense for what it looks like, but not the fine detail needed to accurately represent one visually.

            Incidentally, I have a difficult time commissioning art as a result, because I have an idea of what I want, but I have a hard time communicating the finer details. AI generated art has actually been really helpful for me in this regard; I can see something and know if it’s what I want or not, so being able to give an AI art generator a broad description and get back 100 images from which I can pick a few and tell an artist which parts of each one I want has made it much easier.

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        I can create images, sounds, smells, etc the whole gaumut experience OF an apple in my mind. I almost always go for visual it made up in my mind. Just depends.

        Not the person you were asking, but seems like you’re curious.

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        Both internal dialogue which sounds the same as my spoken voice alongside images or videos, similar to when there’s a montage being narrated in a movie is the best way I can explain it. This is all fascinating to me now! Do you dream very often?

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          I only seem to dream if I’m not sleeping well. I can pretty reliably make myself dream by having coffee before bed. Otherwise, nope, there’s just a vague sense that time has passed when I wake up. If I do dream it’s highly visual, though.

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            You only remember your dreams when sleeping lightly. You most likely still dream.

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        I’m a 2 on the scale unless i try (I can do 1 but it’s not fast or easy for complex things).

        Visualization isn’t usually an active thing for me. But when you say “think of a car accident” I can visualize one generic car t-boning another on a generic road. If you ask me to describe a room in my house I visualize most of the things there and described based off that visualization.

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          I’m a 3 for memories, a 4 for everything else. Before my head injury I was a 5 for everything (no idea what that’s about lol)

          I can describe a car accident in great detail and draw a picture of it, but in my brain I’m just verbally describing the car accident to myself as if I’m the narrator.

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        For me when I’m daydreaming it’s like watching a movie, my eyes might be open but I don’t see shit, my brain’s doing other things. Or when I’m visualizing something it’s like free and organic AR. But yeah, no dialogue necessary, it’s like a hallucination that I control.

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        How do you think quickly if you need to say everything in your mind? Is the voice very quick?

        It’s also unfathomable to me how people can think of what they need to do tomorrow and not see it.

        I just think we don’t understand our own internal processes very well. The conscious part may come long after we had the thought and if you say it or see it doesn’t matter.

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      In my case, it’s not exactly like an outline, it’s just… I can’t describe it because I can’t actually focus on it, it’s like a cross between a picture and a notion. But somehow, in the lineup, the outline seems like the most accurate level of detail.

      Also color is absent for me, don’t know about for others.

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      right, coz there’s no point if you can make better images in your head, yeah?

      you don’t run into problems like awful actors, or they suddenly introduce a fetish you’re not into

      is that about right?

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        I introduce another option, as I’m much more detailed than even “1.” I can visualise entire scenes with the background and all, along with other sensory experiences such as touch, taste, and smell with complete realism. Very useful being in engineering. I do watch the referenced content, but it’s more to “enrich the dataset” so to speak, just for inspiration and to provide more details to imagine later. Sometimes I’ll just turn it off and go with the fantasy instead.

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        That’s like saying there’s no point in having sex with other people because you know how best to touch yourself.

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          You are totally on point, to answer op and staying in topic, that’s like the difference between wanking and being wanked, both will get you there but being passive and enjoying new things is always nice. It’s not because you can visualize it that you can think of it. Moreover I have great spatial and detailed mind visualization but I have trouble with faces. As an example I can visualize myself navigating in streets and places, I can rotate objects in my mind and other stuff, but faces are hard for me, like reading in a dream . In real life too I have a bad faces recognition/memory.

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          One thing I’m learning from this thread is maybe some people can visualise but it takes them effort?

          Strange to imagine minds that are not one’s own.

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            I mean for me it’s like a checklist. But it goes by fast. Like I’ll list the characteristics and then apply them to a kind of “3D model” in my head.

            Or I’ll just use past objects from my memory. I’ve seen lots of apples in my life, lol.

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            Imo its just a different thing.

            Like, 1 or 2 here with sort of moving images like memories, sounds, conversations.

            I still listen to interviews despite being able to make up convos in my head. I watch comedy despite being able to make up jokes and funny stories.

            I watch movies despite being able to visualise whatever i want.

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    I’m a 1 and yes I do. I can imagine something, but it’s hard to concentrate on something super detailed and fully enjoy myself

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    Anyone else with a variable place on the scale? I’m 3 normally but can go up to 1 on a limited scope in short bursts with effort.
    It’s like my brain has a limited rendering throughput so it’s either a low quality version of the entire object, or a small high quality zoomed in section

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    I’m definitely a 1, and generally I don’t. I do, however, really like interactive fiction in both work safe and non work safe contexts. I think I really enjoy being able to visualize it in my mind more than I do watching it.

    I’m not sure if it factors into your pet theory, but I’m asexual so the appeal of physical forms is also very lost on me. That’s a different can of worms that I’m happy to open if interested, but I’ll leave it be if not.

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    I’m between 4 and 5, and no, I don’t need to. I can conceptualize things pretty well, I just can’t do it visually.