• novibe@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    What are “American values”? And where do they come from? Like why would those be “American” values, over anything else?

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      2 months ago

      Life, Liberty, the Pursuit of Happiness

      Go read the preamble to the constitution. It’s quite different from what the “We the people…” 1776 people think it says. It’s basically what the right would call socialism, taking care of one another when possible.

      The first amendment protects the separation of church and state, freedom of the press, freedom of speech, feedback of assembly.

      The second amendment protects your right to form a militia if none exist. Which always reminds me of the Black Panthers protecting black voters while armed.

      There’s a lot of technical amendments too. But what really gives me American pride is all of those who have continued to push for those rights to be upheld.

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        That’s your modern interpretation of those “rights” and document. The people who wrote that were mostly slave owners, who believed only land owning men should have any democratic rights. Black people were not even considered humans. Indigenous people were treated as pests. I mean…

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      Calling the values that are supposedly held by Americans “American values” would be accurate even if they were the exact same values held by the people of Belgium. They would also be “Belgian values” if that were the case.

      I doubt anyone here would suggest that “American values” were exclusively American.

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      "Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness” are specifically listed an unalienable rights in America’s Declaration of Independence and could be seen as the origin for many other American values.

      The phrase itself is quite similar to John Locke’s "life, liberty, and estate” from Two Treatises of Government written nearly a century earlier. You can look to Voltaire, Hume, or really any other Enlightenment period philosopher or writer of the time to see that the founding fathers were a product of that time, and that the ideas of the century or so leading up to American independence are enshrined as values or rights in Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights.