• chumbaz@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    What an odd take.

    Every dev I know must be terrified of technology as they all use apple laptops. I don’t love apple but they make a pretty sweet *nix laptop for dev work.

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    I don’t understand why Apple gets so much shit.

    Sorry I want a well-managed UNIX system with a nice GUI while not coding? I don’t want to deal with configuration hell, malware and viruses or all the other trash Windows brings with it.

    I’m a programmer and I adore being able to use most UNIX and Linux software. As a regular user (not programming) I don’t need to babysit my OS and I get all the magic with interoperability between all my devices.

    As for privacy I get all that on macOS with mobile profiles, VPN’s, ad blocking, etc.

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      I am literally forced to use Apple at work. I can life with an iPhone, because I use it just for its intended, dumped down usage and I overcame the annoyance about Apples fascism (alternative web engine). If you are not able to automate 100% of your setup on a proper UNIX machine, please do the programming community a favor and switch your line of work. Apple is such a shit show: no keyboard driven workflow w/o extensive customization, how the fuck can I automate 100% of the the setup/customization, why the fuck do I have to upgrade every fucking single program interactively with a click, why are the package managers homebrew and macports as shitshow like Linux 25 years ago, why is macOS so bloated and fucking slow on a machine, why is the development experience for mac worse than Visual Studio 6 (!), Finder is such a sad joke compared to file managers on every other OS or DE, why can I not easily enable transparent file compression when I am a grown up user etc etc etc. Seriously, macOS is nice for consumers with too much money. The literally only thing macOS does which I envy is the tag system which works. Don’t get me wrong, Linux is also a shit show, but compared to macOS it is like the best thing ever.

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        Okay 🤣

        Apple is fascist and doesn’t let you customize as much as you want to now it’s a shitshow.

        Honestly for someone who wants keyboard shortcuts so badly you seemed to have forgotten about the enter/return key.

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      One doesn’t “get privacy”, privacy can’t be bolted on. One starts with full privacy and then begins losing it to bad decisions, like choosing an inauditable OS that phones home and everything.

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        1 year ago

        “OnE dOeSN’t gEt pRivACy”

        Did you not read what I wrote? I explained how I use VPN’s, .mobileconf profiles, etc for privacy. You don’t know what kind of DNS software I’m running, what blocklists I use, etc. I explicitly told you how I “get” privacy.

        Maybe try to understand the text you’re reading rather than taking every word literally.

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      From my experience with people that are very pro Android vs the pro iOS crowd, it’s just that they’re trying to justify their own choice by uplifting the OS they chose and sometimes tend to focus only on the negatives of the other OS. The same can be said for the various desktop OS crowds.

      I’ve used both Android and iOS, as well as Windows and MacOS (and intend to try Linux at some point) over the years and I never thought one was generally better than the other. All these OSs have different target users and that’s ok. Just because you’re not the target user for OS A, doesn’t mean that OS B is objectively the best OS for everyone. It’s just the best OS for you. And why people feel the need to bash other people’s choices or even make fun of them for it is beyond me.

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        I’m not even pro iOS/macOS. I grew up on pre-UNIX Apple trash and hated it. Back then I was Windows all the way.

        I just get tired of the “Apple sucks” crowd just because Apple is so opinionated. The fact it’s opinionated is exactly why I like it, I’d rather have the underpinnings of the OS just work when it comes to the desktop experience. Otherwise I use FreeBSD and Alpine Linux all the time and love them just as well.

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      They don’t contribute code back to the community and make billions in profit to the detriment of furthering the human species with their concentration of wealth and minimal innovation (since Jobs died).

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    bro why is kali in the “you have no life” section ?? Everyone knows ethical hackers get all the girls

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      I went to school in cybersecurity (ended up being a run of the mill web dev) and the people who ran Kali knew the least. I blame Mr Robot

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    Windows isn’t afraid of tech, but MacOS is? Give me a break, the Unix style terminal is the reason for using MacOS professionally.

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      Depends on the person. Most of the people I know who use MacOS, use it as a glorified Facebook machine. Outside of perhaps Word, they only use the web browser.

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        That’s what I always read but literally the only people I see using them are developers like me.

        At work many use Windows but they’re Java developers; they can have that mess.

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      Honestly, most windows users I know at least know where their files are stored and stuff like that. Average Mac users don’t know if something is synced with the cloud or not and can’t unpack a rar archive without calling support because they are deliberately kept dumb by that restrictive, overly oppinionated, lock-in OS and unrepairable, un-upgradable hardware ecosystem. I’m using linux as daily driver on laptop and desktop for almost a decade now and I hate windows with a passion, but mac manages to be even worse. Although windows is also getting worse with every version since win7, so they might be on par soon…

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        The defaults on Finder are terrible; you’ve just got to have it not default to the “All My Files” view.

        As for your RAR archive scenario I’m wondering if you’re talking about System 9 or something? Lol

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    I wouldn’t say I’m that techy and I recently jumped over to Linux Mint from Windows because it has the C-compiler gcc pre-installed and it’s UNIX seems to be a better experience for programming. It was easy to install, I find I’m going back to Windows less and less. I used to use Photoshop a lot, now I’m just using Krita. I’m lovin it so far. Only games are a problem maybe, although the game I play has a linux version, I just can’t be bothered loading yet.

    Linux Mint is supposed to be the easy for-the-layman Linux distro and that’s been my experience so far - everything has worked, no issues.

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      Not sure why you got downvotes, my non-techy dad uses Mint to play civilization 5 and hasn’t used windows for at least a decade now.