We’re watching US democracy dying right before our eyes.
If Biden and the Democrats had any mental coherency and a spine they’d be using this ruling to their advantage and fuck over conservatives before conservatives get into office to kill democracy and the opposition parties.
The United States Supreme Court is corrupt and illegitimate.
They’re in dire need of a visit from Seal Team 6.
Best I can do is meal team 6 aka gravy seals
Searching for Al Quesadilla and led by Admiral Snackbar, their mission is to combat hypertension.
“When he uses his official powers in any way, under the majority’s reasoning, he now will be insulated from criminal prosecution,” Sotomayor wrote Monday in dissent.
“Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune,” she continued. “Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune.”
This is so bizarre. It’s just blatantly partisan & corrupt.
“take a gratuity after dismissing a case? Immune”
It’s really been a 1-2 punch of “fuck you, citizens”
Seriously, the US is just embarrassment upon embarrassment upon embarrassment these days.
FFS, Presidents have ALWAYS been shielded by official acts. The real issue here today is the 6 months of delay they handed to trump.
Someone needs to do Project 2029 figuring out all the most effective ways to abuse all of this bullshit. We need to detail how to define fascists as enemies of the state under their own rules. Figure out how to use their rules to place the nuts of every landleech in a vice and spin the wheel like we are on the Price is Right. We need to put every religious tenent on the walls of every school, starting with the Satanic Temple. Just point for point find the abuses in their entire plan, then we all make sure to kick as many of them out of congress and state and local governments as possible and start going ham on flipping every abuse like we are Jesus chasing lenders from the temple.
Dude we need to get through this one first, there may not be a 2029 election
Yeah, but then we could have it copyrighted so if he does lose they can’t just change the me to 2029. Attack everything.
Biden should dissolve the supreme court and re-appoint the 9 most activist judges possible.
They made this bed, make them sleep in it.
I hope you can appreciate that this would be the move of a tyrant. You don’t dissolve the cornerstone of law and order without actually destroying the foundation.
No matter how corrupt, this would be unconscionable.
Unconscionable, yes. Necessary, most likely. There are times when someone must wear the mantle of villain in order to be the hero who can actually do what is needed.
Also, the unconscionability of the act does squarely depend on one’s philosophical definition of “justice”. The conscionability of any decision is predicated on how one values the world around them. Personally, I lean towards a form of altruistic utilitarianism. As long as an act does not genuinely do harm, and it is for the benefit of the majority of people, it is good. If an act is harmful to some, but benefits the whole, it is justifiable. If an act harms many, but benefits few, it is unconscionable.
As for what OP said, I believe he mispoke or misunderstood the ramifications of the word “dissolve” in this context. What he described is not a dissolution of SCOTUS, but a forced full reset. Dissolution would be to eliminate it as one of the 3 federal houses of government, leaving only the Presidency and Congress to govern. Removing all members and pursuing filling the seats as the constitution dictates would not dissolve SCOTUS. It would be the same resultant event sequence if something happened and all of the justices died simultaneously. All sitting justicesl being replaced by the Democratic process of the country would be fine, and indeed, would be a good thing. As much as I love Sotomayor and Kagen, removing them would be necessary for it to not be a political action, but one which recognizes that the body is no longer able to do its sworn duty in its current state and it needs replaced.
You’re right, but what is the solution?
The cornerstone of law and order destroying democracy, that can’t stand.
Outraged enough yet? No?
Expect a LOT more of this if you keep urging people to not vote this year. Because this is a tase of what’s to come.
United States of America on July 1, 2024 ceased to be a democratic republic representative of its citizens.
Sounds like Richard Nixon would have had very little to worry about had this Court been around fifty years ago.
Which brings us to Trump…
Great! Now jail and/or execute the 6 corrupt justices. The problem just solved itself.
Dark Brandon, come out to play…
I wish. I saw the debate. His people might do some shit on his behalf, but Joe’s mind has gone. I wouldn’t want him managing a Denny’s. I doubt he’s been calling the shots himself for months.
“He is sick”
Bullshit, that’s how dementia works - first you have bad days, then you only have good days left, then… it’s just days.
I am no doctor, but I do worry about what I see, as someone who has eyes? 👀
Naw joe won the debate. Who gives a shit if he talked like an 81 year old tired granddad. People who didnt watch the whole 90 minute debate dont get a say on it. You’re just as bad as maga idiots repeating media drivel.
I know what early dementia looks like. I’ve watched it happen to more than one of my close family members. Be as left leaning as you want to be, but don’t bury your head in the sand over something as obvious as night and day. Neither one of those guys should be running the country. Not in their best years, and sure as hell not now.
It’s called sundowning which means he’s still effective while the sun’s up 😬
This will not happen. Democrats are fucking pussies and I keep voting for their pussy asses even though they don’t do anything.
Democrats aren’t pussies. Democrats are another arm of the ruling class (aka the 0.1%). There’s a reason they act inept on these things. It makes for good theater which people eat up, but it’s all for the rich. That’s the biggest reason they’ve been remiss to move to the left. The only ones fighting for us are ones that are considered “progressive”, which are greatly in the minority. Once you realize this, a lot more of the democratic leadership actions (or lack thereof), makes sense.
Gotta elect that string of dictators disinclined from exercising their powers 🤷
Fuck this is so bad.
If they were as freaked out by the democratic agenda as they say they are, they would never have made this ruling. It really shows that there is nothing to fear from the democrats.
Bastille Day is next weekend. I think that’s enough time to order and assemble a guillotine. IKEA has those, right?
So you’re telling me Biden could imprison SCOTUS and he’d be free from prosecution?
I guess they would need to decide if it’s an official act or not. But if they’re no longer in SCOTUS, and/or in jail/dead, how could they decide?
Seems simple enough…
Biden’s actions on the Southern border are official acts, he has immunity.
Trump’s actions leading to 1/6 are not official acts, no immunity.
According to you, a person thinking logically and operating in good faith. All an authoritarian needs now is the judge, who can be appointed by the authoritarian themselveswith little oversight, to say whatever they want to do is an official act. We have an irrefutable king again in other words
This reminds me of another circular argument: Anything the president does can be considered “acting presidential” simply because they’re president. You might’ve thought that shitposting on twitter was unbecoming of a world leader, but once a president does it, it’s okay for a president to do.
An argument to protect a fool from public criticism now doubles as a defense against legal action.
That’s theoretically the structure here. The case gets sent back for the first judge to decide what acts were official, time passes, they say none of them were, an appeal happens, time passes, the appeals court agrees, an appeal happens, time passes, Trump is president so the question is moot. Or they decide they were all official to kiss the ring. Far right cabal rule America indefinitely.
The key thing they needed to do was introduce a new question to the original court. Outright declaring it all immune might cause riots and electoral consequences, but saying “it might be immune” means idiots will still think the engine of justice is moving along enough for the consequences both for Trump, the justices, and the larger fascist team to be irrelevant.
9 people decide to allow presidents to act as dictators
Well, 6 of them did.
The 3 who voted against were also part of the decision makingjgroup. What blows my mind is, that decisions like these are left to be decided by so few
So if Trump gets elected, all Americans elected him?
Do you hear yourself?
And while their dissents were blistering and explicit, this ruling warrants more extreme actions. They should have be in the senate right now ringing all the alarm bells and calling the ruling and the court illegitimate. This is an “end of democracy” ruling.
How can Thomas say both anything a president says to the DOJ is an immune official act AND ALSO SAY that Jack Smith is not legitimate?
It seems Biden has carte Blanche to sic the FBI/CIA/DOJ/ST6 on Trump. His very life may depend on wielding this power. Thanks everyone.
Because he doesn’t care to maintain the pretense of justice. He and Scalia are tired of pretending and want to start on the outright fascism.
Scalia is doing whatever the opposite of rolling over in your grave is right about now.
“justice” boner has a new meaning
Also eww
Thomas is very experienced with cognitive dissonance
He should sic them on SCOTUS instead
I see this upcoming election will be the final one. Nice work.
Holy shit this isn’t right. Perfect for dictatorship.
Perfect setup for Trump.
