Some Democrats question Biden's ability to campaign in the 2024 presidential election, divide over whether he should be the nominee, after voters say Trump won debate.
I have yet to meet IRL a single left-wing politically engaged person who says anything other than that Trump will be such an objectively guaranteed catastrophe for everyone in the world that we should vote for whoever’s running against him, whether that person is Biden or Kamala Harris or a blind dog dressed up in a business suit. All the people who say Biden’s old and so they can’t vote for him are fairly un-politically-aware types who aren’t especially left wing in their personal beliefs.
And yet the internet is full of these super left wing people who feel real aggressive about not voting for Biden, like even more aggressively about that, apparently, than they do about any particular left wing cause, about immigration or going to the Palestine protest or what have you.
I feel pretty aggressive about Biden aiding and abetting genocide, supplying Israel with enough bombs to turn Gaza into a death camp. I feel pretty aggressive about Biden just coming out against gender affirmation surgery for minors for no fucking reason. I’m also still feeling pretty fucking aggressive that he broke the railroad strike, but that was years ago so you probably forgot about it.
Biden being medically unfit for the office has basically nothing to do with me not wanting him to be president.
But at least it’s something I can shove in your fucking face so maybe you’ll pressure the Democratic Party to replace their nominee. Whatever is the straw that breaks the camel’s back is good enough for me. We haven’t had a Convention yet! There’s still time to replace him! If you don’t, he is absolutely going to lose and it won’t be anyone’s fault but Biden and his blue MAGA cult.
I feel pretty aggressive about Biden aiding and abetting genocide, supplying Israel with enough bombs to turn Gaza into a death camp.
Agreed
I feel pretty aggressive about Biden just coming out against gender affirmation surgery for minors for no fucking reason.
Sure
I’m also still feeling pretty fucking aggressive that he broke the railroad strike, but that was years ago so you probably forgot about it.
He strengthened the NLRB for the first time since any president that I can remember to the point where it’s backstopping all this historic union progress at Starbucks, UAW, Amazon, all this shit that union people are fighting for finally has some legal backing behind it which is a pretty key force multiplier which in my book is a win.
He did break the rail strike, because it would have fucked up the economy for everyone in ways that led to inflation that actually was sort of his fault, and given how incredibly aggressive everyone is about blaming him for inflation that wasn’t his fault, I don’t think that’s trivial. And, his labor dept. kept working the issue afterwards and got the workers the sick days they were striking for anyway, when there was nothing for him in it.
I realize that the rail strike is a pretty good talking point, because I actually sort of agree with you that in a perfect world he should have let the strike happen and fuck up the rail companies and if the price of bread goes up then oh well treat your workers better America. But trying to extrapolate from that to that he’s a bad labor president when on every non economy ruining strike he’s been 100% on the side of the workers which is incredibly rare for a US president, I think is unfair.
But at least it’s something I can shove in your fucking face so maybe you’ll pressure the Democratic Party to replace their nominee.
Who would you want them to replace him with? If you don’t want Trump, then I think it’s fair to ask what is the course you would want to chart instead of Biden?
I actually have an answer in mind that I like, far more realistic than some that I’ve heard, but I’m curious what your solution would be.
But trying to extrapolate from that to that he’s a bad labor president when on every non economy ruining strike he’s been 100% on the side of the workers which is incredibly rare for a US president, I think is unfair.
Labor is strongest when it ruins the capitalist economy. That’s the fucking point. It’s a class war and the enemy is winning, we need to hit back. Make the markets scream!
Do you also have a problem with aligning contracts in 2028 so all the unions can launch a general strike? That would fuck the economy up pretty badly.
I actually have an answer in mind that I like, far more realistic than some that I’ve heard, but I’m curious what your solution would be.
Michelle Obama, why not?
I don’t really care, I just know that Biden is going to be even worse by the next debate. Running Biden is handing the presidency to Trump at this point.
Although knowing the Democrats they’ll do some dog-brained scheme like running Mitt Romney 💀
Labor is strongest when it ruins the capitalist economy. That’s the fucking point. It’s a class war and the enemy is winning, we need to hit back. Make the markets scream!
I think wanting this to happen sounds great. Like I say, I agree.
Waiting for a president who will provide it before you take any political step, even if what happens while you’re waiting is that you go into a concentration camp for being queer or communist, while the genocide in Palestine actually accelerates and starts being replicated in a lot of other places across the world; I don’t think that is a good idea. Do you think that is a good idea?
Michelle Obama, why not?
I asked you a serious question. Who should win the election in November? If you were running the Democrat’s strategy, who would you nominate instead of Biden?
It’s accelerationist. You and I can openly talk about America’s failures and discuss the disasters objectively. The fascists at the levers of power that run roughshod over the United States government for the last century. Precisely because we actually want to improve things and to help people.
Accelerationist don’t. Or at least they think they do in a warped and twisted way where the only way to do it. Is to destroy the west, to destroy its governments, to injure the people. And then only once everything has collapsed can they build them back up into a system. Which objectively has been shown to be no better than the system they currently have. But in their eyes would magically somehow be better.
It’s manic, cultish Behavior. As an actual leftist in a red State I definitely don’t see that type around here. But I’m sure in more liberal areas they exist. Really though more than anything it’s just a demonstration that even those of us on the left are acutely vulnerable to propaganda and radicalization as well as being indoctrinated into cults.
I have yet to meet IRL a single left-wing politically engaged person who says anything other than that Trump will be such an objectively guaranteed catastrophe for everyone in the world that we should vote for whoever’s running against him, whether that person is Biden or Kamala Harris or a blind dog dressed up in a business suit. All the people who say Biden’s old and so they can’t vote for him are fairly un-politically-aware types who aren’t especially left wing in their personal beliefs.
And yet the internet is full of these super left wing people who feel real aggressive about not voting for Biden, like even more aggressively about that, apparently, than they do about any particular left wing cause, about immigration or going to the Palestine protest or what have you.
It is curious
I feel pretty aggressive about Biden aiding and abetting genocide, supplying Israel with enough bombs to turn Gaza into a death camp. I feel pretty aggressive about Biden just coming out against gender affirmation surgery for minors for no fucking reason. I’m also still feeling pretty fucking aggressive that he broke the railroad strike, but that was years ago so you probably forgot about it.
Biden being medically unfit for the office has basically nothing to do with me not wanting him to be president.
But at least it’s something I can shove in your fucking face so maybe you’ll pressure the Democratic Party to replace their nominee. Whatever is the straw that breaks the camel’s back is good enough for me. We haven’t had a Convention yet! There’s still time to replace him! If you don’t, he is absolutely going to lose and it won’t be anyone’s fault but Biden and his blue MAGA cult.
Monkey paw curls and they replace him with Mitt Romney or something. Finally someone the entire nation’s donors can rally behind
Agreed
Sure
He strengthened the NLRB for the first time since any president that I can remember to the point where it’s backstopping all this historic union progress at Starbucks, UAW, Amazon, all this shit that union people are fighting for finally has some legal backing behind it which is a pretty key force multiplier which in my book is a win.
He did break the rail strike, because it would have fucked up the economy for everyone in ways that led to inflation that actually was sort of his fault, and given how incredibly aggressive everyone is about blaming him for inflation that wasn’t his fault, I don’t think that’s trivial. And, his labor dept. kept working the issue afterwards and got the workers the sick days they were striking for anyway, when there was nothing for him in it.
I realize that the rail strike is a pretty good talking point, because I actually sort of agree with you that in a perfect world he should have let the strike happen and fuck up the rail companies and if the price of bread goes up then oh well treat your workers better America. But trying to extrapolate from that to that he’s a bad labor president when on every non economy ruining strike he’s been 100% on the side of the workers which is incredibly rare for a US president, I think is unfair.
Who would you want them to replace him with? If you don’t want Trump, then I think it’s fair to ask what is the course you would want to chart instead of Biden?
I actually have an answer in mind that I like, far more realistic than some that I’ve heard, but I’m curious what your solution would be.
Fascinating
Labor is strongest when it ruins the capitalist economy. That’s the fucking point. It’s a class war and the enemy is winning, we need to hit back. Make the markets scream!
Do you also have a problem with aligning contracts in 2028 so all the unions can launch a general strike? That would fuck the economy up pretty badly.
Michelle Obama, why not?
I don’t really care, I just know that Biden is going to be even worse by the next debate. Running Biden is handing the presidency to Trump at this point.
Although knowing the Democrats they’ll do some dog-brained scheme like running Mitt Romney 💀
I think wanting this to happen sounds great. Like I say, I agree.
Waiting for a president who will provide it before you take any political step, even if what happens while you’re waiting is that you go into a concentration camp for being queer or communist, while the genocide in Palestine actually accelerates and starts being replicated in a lot of other places across the world; I don’t think that is a good idea. Do you think that is a good idea?
I asked you a serious question. Who should win the election in November? If you were running the Democrat’s strategy, who would you nominate instead of Biden?
It’s accelerationist. You and I can openly talk about America’s failures and discuss the disasters objectively. The fascists at the levers of power that run roughshod over the United States government for the last century. Precisely because we actually want to improve things and to help people.
Accelerationist don’t. Or at least they think they do in a warped and twisted way where the only way to do it. Is to destroy the west, to destroy its governments, to injure the people. And then only once everything has collapsed can they build them back up into a system. Which objectively has been shown to be no better than the system they currently have. But in their eyes would magically somehow be better.
It’s manic, cultish Behavior. As an actual leftist in a red State I definitely don’t see that type around here. But I’m sure in more liberal areas they exist. Really though more than anything it’s just a demonstration that even those of us on the left are acutely vulnerable to propaganda and radicalization as well as being indoctrinated into cults.