• Lyre@lemmy.ca
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      10 days ago

      Boy that would seriously mess with the narrative of this comment section if that were the case

      • unipadfox@pawb.social
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        10 days ago

        Of course the creator is going to tout the most morally upstanding use of his app. If it genuinely helps human trafficking victims, then that’s another story, but from this quote it just seems like he has some vague hope about it.

        • ameancow@lemmy.world
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          10 days ago

          Yeah that sounds so much like post-hoc justification that I’m seriously surprised that it’s being swallowed by anyone.

          I mean, great if it DOES help with such a terrible problem, it’s just I have seen this thing being talked about before and it’s NEVER been discussed in terms of helping trafficking victims. This is the first I’ve heard of it. Almost every time you see this kind of narrative being discussed it’s either 99% of the time a bunch of sweaty incels online whinging about how women aren’t really pretty and just want to trap guys or some other dom/sub kink fantasy nonsense to validate their depression and self-loathing, OR about 1% of the time it’s an actual empowering discussion talking about unfair hollywood beauty standards.

          • Lumisal@lemmy.world
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            10 days ago

            I mean ageing technology (what the person might look like after 5 years etc) was also created for human trafficking victims, and I haven’t seen it really being talked about in many years now since it came out. Seems weird to base something on whether or not you’ve heard of it.

            If the family doesn’t have a recent picture of the person without makeup, then yeah, this would be useful, since people can look pretty different without makeup. I’m the only one who has recent pictures of my wife without makeup for example, her friends and parents only have pictures of her with makeup since she normally does some when meeting them. She’s also half Chinese, so depending on how she decides to do her make up, can look way more asian or barely asian at all. If I didn’t have those pictures and something happened, the make-up pictures wouldn’t be as useful in searching for her.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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              10 days ago

              I think this is more about whether or not the creator was honest when they claim that’s why they created the app and it looks like many people here, myself included, are dubious about that being his intention and not just a justification.

    • RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      wasn’t this specifically developed to assist in helping to better identify victims of human trafficking?

      The author of the article you linked doesn’t seem to believe that.

      • SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz
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        10 days ago

        The creator stated their intent, and the author disagreed. Does that opinion make the creator’s statement untrue?

        It’s a weird situation & definitely a slippery slope. Was it his intent? I honestly can’t say. I guess it’s certainly a possibility.

        I don’t think this kind of app is harmful in itself. This kind of thing can & will obviously be used/weapon used by stupid shit-heads for their own agenda, but those kind of people will utilize literally anything that exists to justify their shit-head views.

      • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
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        10 days ago

        The author of the article is right not to believe this claim. The author can say that their software was intended for whatever noble uses they want. We know from experience that software has mainstream off-label use.

        Is BitTorrent really a tool for downloading community content like open films and Linux distros? Because that’s what the creators say it’s for. It’s not untrue.

        Is Jellyfin or Plex a tool for organizing your ripped collection of CDs, DVDs, and Blu-rays? That’s what the developers say. It’s not untrue

        Is Tor a tool for protecting dissidents? That’s what they say it is. It really is that. But is that all it is?

        This tool might be useful for identifying sex trafficking victims, just as a nudifying app might be useful for identifying victims of involuntary pornography.

        But on the other side of this is that nudifying apps are more likely to be used to create involuntary pornography, and makeup-removal apps are more likely to be used to harass women.

        No reason to ban AI technology or anything, but no reason to pretend that tools like this aren’t used for off-label and sometimes nefarious purposes.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    10 days ago

    My wife almost never wears makeup. Basically only for things like job interviews.

    And I don’t like how she looks in makeup, so I’m fine with that.

    • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Same, I’m really grateful she has no interest/desire to wear makeup. It was also nice to know what her face looked like from day 1, which is what this app is meant to facilitate.

      The more I think about it, the stranger the notion of ‘gatekeeping her real face’ behind a full-on relationship sounds to me, lol.

      P.S. lol, I just remembered reading an old ‘hack’ for this years and years ago: make a water park your first outing together.

    • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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      10 days ago

      Older guy here. I have noticed that now when I look a beautiful young women I feel envy rather than lust. My thoughts go to wishing I was young again rather than wishing I could “tap dat ass” or whatever. Realizing that made kinda sad, NGL.

        • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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          10 days ago

          It’s not lile that. I have no regrets, it’s just that I am getting older. Shit hurts all the time or doesn’t work as well as it used to. I am tired and the weight of a lifetime of memories is starting to get heavy. I am the same guy I was at ~21. In thirty years you will be the same guy you are today, but younger people will look at you different. I skateboard, I surf, I snowboard, etc as I have for forty years, but now I am not a dude doing dude things, I am a curiosity or “an inspiration”. I can’t go to a concert or a club to enjoy myself as I always have because now I am the weird old guy in the club. Nevermind that I have been listening to “EDM” since the 80’s. It just sucks that I just can’t be me without it being weird.

          As far as advice, you know what to do. Eat well (little to no proceased food, way less meat, more veggies, etc) exercise regularly, stay active, and drink lots of water. Also, play hard AND work hard for yourself.

          • Brekky@lemmy.world
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            10 days ago

            I like the work Hard for yourself statement. As a 43 year old woman possibly dealing with a serious health issue (waiting on results) I wish I had worked harder for myself on prioritising my health over my work. Far too easy to put off dr appointments/dentist appontments/smears etc by rationalising that you can’t moss that meeting.

            • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml
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              10 days ago

              Heah, I guess for people in this day and age health span maximisation (not life span) should be the main goal.

            • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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              10 days ago

              I have had to deal with a few of those in recent years and they are not fun. Hang in there and best of luck.

          • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml
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            10 days ago

            I see. I just feel a bit bad because I’ve spent the past few years living with my parents, without friends, stressing over university yet failing. And I’m really tempted to just say stuff it, move cities and actually live. My life has been so defficient in adventure up to now. I just can’t help but think that university, careers, office jobs etc. can wait when the (biological) clock is ticking.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        10 days ago

        Older guy here too and I feel the same way. My daughter asked me not long ago about guys with cheerleader and schoolgirl fetishes and if it was pedophilia and I said no, but I certainly do not understand why someone my age would be into that.

      • NaoPb@eviltoast.orgEnglish
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        10 days ago

        Made me realise I’m aging. Damnit.

        Take this old man. Your eyes blink automatically. Have fun blinking your eyes manually for the next few minutes.

        Nyeeee

  • uebquauntbez@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    I developed methods which can tell you what women think too. It’s called Talking2M. It’s fun, mostly 3d, open world scenarios, sometimes multiple choice answers …

    More details to come soontm with version 1,1b. Btw: Get a life!

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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        10 days ago

        Real LifeTM is a Role-Playing Multiplayer Game with the best graphics resolution in the Industry.

        Sadly, it suffers from severe game play balance problems, most notably that most of game play time is spent in boring tasks which should’ve been simplified into just the core gameplay element for a better gaming experience, plus it’s heavy reliance on grinding, to the point that most players literally have to spend at least 8h per day in the game grinding merelly to not lose the game.

        And don’t get me started on it’s Pay To Play elements.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      10 days ago

      The sad thing is that’s basically what people like Andrew Tate get notorious for- A man telling other men what women think.

      I’ve never heard of a major female influencer telling lonely incel types how to get a girlfriend. But then I suppose she would be telling them to do things like “listen to what she’s saying” and “care about her problems” and that’s not what they want to hear.

      • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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        9 days ago

        I’ve never heard of a major female influencer telling lonely incel types how to get a girlfriend.

        There’s a few, but they say the same shit the male influences say. It’s pretty rough watching a 27 year old single woman telling men about The Wall.

        • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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          9 days ago

          The Wall

          The Berlin Wall? Pink Floyd’s The Wall? The US-Mexico border wall? More details, please.

          • SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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            9 days ago

            The “wall” women hit when they turn 25. I’m not gonna delve into the details but incel influences like them… Very young.

      • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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        10 days ago

        Why would they drive their customer basis away? A lot of female influencers is basically soft porn. And it is the type you get pushed on the platforms and that have million of followers. Not the women focusing on their hobbies or societal issues or other actually interesting stuff.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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          10 days ago

          I don’t know that soft porn for men and “listen to a woman and acknowledge her problems” really go together, but if one of them tried it, it might work. Something tells me the people watching her would just watch someone else instead. They’re not watching for dating advice.

        • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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          10 days ago

          To add to both your posts, a pretty good general rule is: don’t confuse famous with knowledgeable.

          The only knowledge they’ve proven is of “how to become known in a specific domain”, which at least in social media is mainly about self-promotion (and more generally it’s about grifter skills) rather than specific domain knowledge.

          So yeah, the likes of Andrew Tate will do it by looking confident whilst telling tons of bullshit and plenty of female influencers will do it by looking good and showing some skin - they’re good at self-promotion online but that doesn’t mean they know shit about anything else.

    • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      I think I may have tested a Beta version because I get responses like:

      • You know what you did.
      • Empathise don’t sympathise.
      • What should I wear.
      • Be more spontaneous.
      • Don’t plan without me.
  • PenisWenisGenius@lemmynsfw.com
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    10 days ago

    Is it true that you can talk to women? I’ve never tried it before and I’m 32. I use Arch GNU+Linux btw. Also I’ve never been outside.

    • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      I only date women who do exactly what they want to do and not what society says they should do. As it happens, they generally don’t wear makeup every day.

      • blindbunny@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        10 days ago

        That’s a fair assessment. I think I was just saying I didn’t really consciously choose that. Just the women I’m attracted to don’t wear makeup.

  • _number8_@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    10 days ago

    why does this matter tho? like, if you have a TV and you have a DVD player, you can watch movies on the TV. what does it look like without the DVD player?? what does that matter? you have the DVD player! and the TV!

  • NaoPb@eviltoast.orgEnglish
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    10 days ago

    Man, who would’ve thought they look like they don’t have make-up on when they dom’t have make-up on.

      • Tryptaminev@lemm.ee
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        10 days ago

        Given how prevalent make up is, especially with how many stories i heard of women struggling in the office when they did not put on makeup that specific day, how the behavior of random strangers changed etc. that is not true. There are some men, but definitely no the majority.

        • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
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          9 days ago

          women struggling in the office when they did not put on makeup that specific day, how the behavior of random strangers changed etc.

          It’s simply the difference that’s being noticed, and no one’s really at fault for that, on either side. Any woman who never wears makeup is also never going to get the same ‘are you sick?’ kind of reactions on any given day she doesn’t wear makeup to work.

  • notsure@fedia.io
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    10 days ago

    don’t real men have a chart of the holistic 29 day cycle in order to offer a bath and pleasant smells in lieu of the “gift” of giving birth?
    good fucking “god” peoples is peoples. some have the burden of procreation. treat them nice.

      • bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        9 days ago

        “Red pill” is a matrix reference (take the blue pill and go back to your normal life or take the red pill and “see how deep the rabbit hole goes”) high jacked by sexist dudes who see “taking the red pill” as waking up to (perceived) social injustice against men. They show up in threads claiming women routinely lie about being assaulted and hide behind male victims (which exist and need to be heard) as they deny that women can be victims. They get mad when a woman is in Star Wars. They are the kind of people constantly saying “me too went gone too far” and end up pushing crap like Gamer Gate. They are also generally very right wing/overlap with “men’s rights activists.”

    • NaoPb@eviltoast.orgEnglish
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      10 days ago

      I hate how they have taken that redpill term to make it all uncool instead of how cool it used to be in the Matrix.

  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    It’s wild that hundreds of years ago, high society women would wake up to put on makeup. They’d literally never be seen without it. Waking up at crack ass morning, wear makeup, then make breakfast.

    My wife and I went for a walk and she didn’t even wear a bra.

    Life is great.

    • dexa_scantron@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      There are plenty of women who live like this now. It’s a cultural thing, not a timeline thing. I had a roommate in college who would wake up before dawn to do her makeup so nobody would see her without it.

      (Also high society women certainly didn’t make their own breakfasts… well, ever, but especially not hundreds of years ago)

      • shatterling@lemm.ee
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        10 days ago

        And depending on the era, certainly in England, many high society people didn’t get out of bed until 11am or midday.

    • Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
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      10 days ago

      i like the idea that high society women would make breakfast, maybe they’d play at it but the actual breakfast would be made by lower class servants.