Hey everyone,
The Fedihosting Foundation is looking for a new site-admin for Lemmy.World, to help our busy team. This moderator will help with reviewing and acting on reports, weighing in on user content, and helping foster our local communities while acting as a friendly neighbor to other fediverse instances.
You also DO NOT need to have an account on one of our FHF services but WILL have to create an account after joining. Users from other sites WELCOME!
Benefits:
- You’ll get to work with a great team of passionate kind, goofy individuals from all over the (lemmy) world!
- We have weekly virtual hangouts where we brainstorm new ideas and catch up with each other. Community for us is not just a buzzword.
- We can also provide work and personal references, as we are a registered legal non-profit.
- While not a technical role, you will also gain exposure to best-in-class industry tooling and processes for large-scale hosted applications (aka modern DevOps).
- We also run a small blog, that we’d love to have folks contribute to.
- Join in on the editorial voice for our featured communities.
- We also understand this is a hobby and that family and work come first
- If you’re having a hard time finding time or are busy, we will always do our best to help and support you.
Applicants should have the following qualities:
- Experience moderating a diverse group of individuals from many geographic, religious, and LGBTQ+ backgrounds.
- Able to commit to at least 5-10 hours a week.
- Excellent interpersonal skills and communication.
- Solid background in conflict resolution.
- Must be able to speak English.
- Works well asynchronously with remote teams.
- Grammar skills optional 😛
Bonus skills (which you will learn if you don’t already)
- SQL / Business Intelligence software skills.
- N8N workflow automation
- Web Design (Hugo + GitHub Pages).
- Python scripting
Application process:
- It goes without saying that we will only be considering applicants with a significant positive history of online posts and/or comments, no trolls, please.
- Applicants must be okay with sitting for a video interview and must pass a basic background check.
- While not strictly required, a CV with relevant work and volunteer history will help during the application process.
- We are an international team that works from both North America EST time (-4) and Europe CEST (+2), so we would ask that candidates be flexible with their availability.
Please apply HERE https://forms.gle/epTdTy9Xh9kNFKsQA
(Edit: Updated post, thanks Donuts!)
(Edit2: Thanks for all the feed back on this post, it’s much appreciated 💗💗💗)
(Edit3: If you feel like you’d fit in, apply, the req’s that we posted are more of a suggestion, then a hard yes or no)
Man this job posting is worse then all the garbage that companies put out. There will be very few people who tolerate KYC for non-paying volunteer internet janny job - and those who do should probably never be mods. Good luck tho, you’ll need it.
Honest question; why does this have to be a volunteer role? Is there any room in the Open Collective fund to pay towards renumerating someone for something like this?
At this time, our current budget only provides room for operational costs, such as hosting. We’re all volunteers, even Ruud.
Thank you for answering, and for the work you do. I will increase my donation amount :)
Always appreciated ❤️🙏
Yeah I REALLY doubt they could truly not afford to pay someone at least a bit for something like this. I am a former team member and I get the feeling someone or two are getting paid at least a bit.
https://lemmy.world/post/36032
I don’t think you guys meet my requirements. I don’t use proprietary software, and use a whitelist firewall with addresses I know and trust. While I can spin up a secondary network or even a Windows machine, I do not care to do so at all, and certainly not regularly. My primary reason for the whitelist is because of my terrible code quality, dislike of data mining from corporate America, and distrust of PDF datasheets for vintage electronics hobby projects from 3rd party sources. I don’t connect to anything like discord because of their random IP addresses without human readable names, weird ports, and undocumented protocol. I don’t use google at all because I fundamentally disagree with their business model, and have black listed all of their servers.
I volunteer as tribute! I will enact GREAT VENGEANCE against my enemies!
Are you doing yours?!
I’d be happy to apply, but requiring a CV and full background check in addition to a video call interview is a bit steep for me.
Just the video call I’d absolutely be applying, I genuinely believe in Lemmy and want to see it succeed, but not to the point that I’m willing to put this much information into non-employment hands.
Good luck on the search.
Thanks for the feedback, we only ask for a CV to help the process, but all of us on the admin team are on a first name basis.
We’ve all know each other quite well <3
As you should be!
After quite a long while working with someone to this capacity, it would be strange not to be on first name basis, but I haven’t worked with you.
I’ve been on the internet for a very long time, and it takes quite a bit of rapport to build before I’m comfortable giving out my first name, let alone my full name.
I definitely understand where you’re coming from, just a stretch at the start for me personally.
Really love the admin team though!
Not trying to tell you what do do (I bet there’s heaps of people that would see it the same way as you)
But it seems kind of odd that people are happy to give a background check to a corporate employer who doesn’t give shit about them (and who they don’t care about or feel any responsibility towards), but wouldn’t do the same for a community org position that necessarily involves more responsibility to the broader community.
I think it’s because you can “largely” trust business to protect this information, this isnt even really a business.
That’s kind of a myth though, isn’t it?
Like, OK, they probably have more mature security systems in place (but that’s definitely not guaranteed, especially with anything middle tier or smaller), and at least they have cash reserves so you might get something if you can figure out how to sue them.
But most businesses would be well happy to make a quick buck off selling whatever private data they managed to get their hands on.
I’d be surprised if someone hasn’t already tried to make a business out of redistributing background check information, now that I think about it…
Its because they have laws they have to follow, and if they break them I can take them to court. My last employer had to send out checks to make up missed wages over 5 years recently. It happens here regularly. Companies make mistakes and people take them to court. Its only the absolutely giant ones that might even have a way around it. I wouldnt even expect any of the big tech companies to keep any of my information private though to be honest.
So the issue here for me is lack of pay.
Asking me this through straight employment is an agreement that protects both the worker and employer in some capacity.
Asking this through volunteer work makes me uneasy.
I’m completely happy to volunteer my time to an org that I believe in, Lemmy being a ptime example, but not willing to do so in the case of requiring this information up front.
This is just Lemmy.World. You don’t have to be an admin here to help out Lemmy as a whole.
You are correct, but the topic is applying as an admin, so I replied to the topic.
It says the CV isn’t required.
While not strictly required
Technically true, but verbiage leads me to believe its more required than not.
This is how you get infiltrated.
If .world won’t pay someone impeccably qualified to perform this job, some other group will.
I bet a sufficiently motivated asset could juggle several different intelligence agencies, ngos/lobbying organizations and criminal syndicates and turn this into a ~100k a year gig.
…yeah, because there’s real profit in moderating all those linux memes…
I don’t know if it’s profitable, but if reddit users break away and start using something different, developed by communists and friendly to non-western and anticapitalist ideas it would be easy for a person or group opposed to that to see it as a threat to be observed, controlled and infiltrated for the purposes of sabotage.
if reddit users break away and start using something different,
They remained fine after they took away 3rd party API. They remained fine after the IPO, and began implementing bots to do automodding. They remained fine when they announced they were selling all users data to google for AI training.
What sort of event, short of elon musk buying reddit, do you forsee that causes mass migration of platforms?
i don’t. i don’t see cpusa forming a vanguard party and leading the glorious american socialist peoples revolution either but that didn’t stop em from getting eat up with feds.
Heya. I’m not interested in that position, but I’m open to moderating another community or two if you need to fill in any gaps for a less demanding role.
Thanks for your interest in moderation. If you want you can always ask either a popular community if you can help out or request a unmoderated community takeover and if anything isnt working for you, you can always create a new community!
My job didn’t even require a video interview, this unpaid role has more strict requirements than half the jobs in the US haha.
Sour grapes
My job didn’t even require a video interview, this unpaid role has more strict requirements than half the jobs in the US haha.
It’s an IT job for a role with big responsibility. Unpaid or not, the role is the role. Fulling up the shelves in a grocery store comes with a bit less responsibility.
Thanks for understanding, we’re just trying to be careful 😟
Thank you for being careful.
Thanks for understanding, we’re just trying to be careful 😟
People who complain aren’t the applicants you would have wanted anyway.
My job is also an IT job with big responsibility. Not sure where you got filling grocery store shelves from.
Yes, but for your job you’ve given to your employer your ID and your home address. If you mess something up they know ehere to get you. These guys can’t get these warranties and they need to know you better.
What stops you from lying during a video interview? It’s not like they have some crazy virtual lie detector.
Nothing, it’s just an extra check.
My guess is it’s because it’s a similar role to a Reddit Admin, which is to say they’re basically a global moderator. Also, having access of any kind to the site’s SQL server requires an element of trust. That’s probably why they require the video interview.
Folks that would be brought in would be part of the admin staff and have access to quite a lot. You’re on target with that for sure!
I’m glad there’s an effort to avoid weirdos who have our worst interests at heart. Hope some heroes apply and go through the process!
Yep I wish them well but it’s a bit much for a volunteer position
If a potential candidate doesn’t understand why there’s a strong vetting process then then don’t understand the changing paradigm of human communication. Teaching that is an unacceptable liability. The OpSec is on point. Great work. And, thank you for everything, including tolerance of those that don’t yet understand why.
You don’t get people with 5 years of experience if no one is willing to give you experience.
You don’t start a career as a CEO.
Radicals don’t often recruit in public.
Seek and ye shall find.
You don’t start a career as a CEO.
But they often start as “executives” which is a huge problem.
Very few modern CEOs have ever actually worked a day in their lives. They move around between various different industries with no knowledge of what’s important.
Their only concern is making stock price go up over a short timeframe
Their only concern is making stock price go up over a short timeframe
To be fair, that’s why the Board of Directors is hiring them. Everything else is secondary to line go up.
There was a line on 3rd rock from the sun that was so relatable to me as a teenager in the 90s.
Tommy, the oldest alien, now trapped in the teenagers body, is trying to get a job at a fast food place. The manager turns him down. And when Tommy asks why, the manager says “I can’t hire you, you have no experience!”
And when Tommy asks how you get experience, the manager says “First you get a job”. Tommy asks how you get a job, and the manager says “You need experience!”
Thanks, we are just trying to be careful.
What’s the salary, again?
The warm fuzzy you feel after a job well done
Put me in coach
i would just like to take this opportunity and say thank you.
I’m not applying but I have a comment / suggestion:
A pattern I’m seeing here, in activism and open source is that you basically want the full package right now. While I understand that that is what you need, people like that don’t grow on trees.
It would be good if there was a “trainee” position for people to gain the kind of experience you are asking for. And guidance, by you to make sure they learn the right lessons. Possibly including a private-ish best practices handbook or whatever. I know that that means additional work in the short term.
Thanks for reading, all the best wishes!
(Compare to linux’ kernel team asking for kernel devs and the policy of “pick any topic you’d like to work on”. Do I expect a fully course on everything, bringing me from “high school knowledge” to “kernel dev professional”? No, of course not. But a few book recommendations would be great. In that case. Not sure if you can learn moderation from a book.)
A pattern I’m seeing here, in activism and open source is that you basically want the full package right now. While I understand that that is what you need, people like that don’t grow on trees
The post-y2k bust removed a lot of our higher-paid staffers, and those were our mentors. For 2-3 generations of new coders we’ve been without that crucial “this is WHY it’s best-practice” understanding from an experienced peer.
When you lament the loss of ready and experienced volunteers, what we lack are people who’ve learned at the side of truly talented people and are ready to take on some projects.
Now we have people with free time and a short history of … Well, it’s work.
What I’m saying is, there’s a clear cause for the current state, for breach after breach after massive breach, and the lack of stellar volunteers.
This will get better, but - as downvotes will show - the current state is one of massive potential but little realization.
When you lament the loss of ready and experienced volunteers, what we lack are people who’ve learned at the side of truly talented people
What I’m actually lamenting isn’t the lack of experienced volunteers.
I’m lamenting the fact that the groups in need lack the awareness that nobody is teaching the stuff they need and that they should do it themselves.
E.g. https://kernelnewbies.org/ I wasn’t kidding when I mentioned them. Their idea of “outreach” is to open the door and wait for people to fall in. They have no teaching material, they have no recommendations. I’m recognizing that there is something happening that is in my interest and I personally would put in the time to learn whatever is necessary to get to the level that is required to seriously touch that code. I just literally don’t know where to start and have no point to connect. There is a https://kernelnewbies.org/KernelMentors mentors program. Not only is their only point of contact a mailing list, if you follow the link, you will find that the mailing list doesn’t actually exist.
It’s not exactly uncommon for a listing to advertise the person they want, but to accept applicants with significantly less on the basis that they can get there. Nearly every job I’ve ever got I was not at the level advertised in something or other.
Yeah it’s pretty common in IT jobs where they’re like “we want 25 years experience in these ten different technologies” and then you talk to the hiring manager and they admit that those qualifications are ridiculous.
…do you have any idea how many times I DIDN’T EVEN APPLY because they said “must have X skill”, and I was like “oh…then I better not waste everybodies time.”
I’d say if you have 80% of the requirements you might as well apply. I would frankly ignore years of experience more or less entirely.
So that’s why employers asks for 18 years of Go and 12 years of Rust experience!
Worst case you just get told no. It NEVER hurts to apply. You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.
everybodies
everybody’s ?
I’ll be honest, I’ve tried it both ways, turns out I’m just useless.
No one is useless 💗
Sounds a lot like my current job. Working for a non profit, ingest shit and spew rainbows. I have nothing to encourage you to consider me.
After spending 1.4 minutes thinking about it. Nope. I am out. Good luck. Fuck nuts.
