• horseloaf@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      If u make privacy illegal then only cops, spooks, governments, billionaires and other criminals will have privacy. FTFY.

      • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        Uhh have you heard? Constitutional rights are ala cart now! Just pick and choose what you want! No big deal.

        • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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          5 months ago

          I already have a chainsaw for that kind of thing, that does this have to do with guns and encryption?

          • Naich@lemmings.world
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            5 months ago

            Yeah, that’s the point. What do guns have to do with encryption? I could say “If you outlaw beards, only outlaws will have beards” and it will make as much sense as your original post. I appreciate that you have a weird fetish for violence but you don’t have to shoe-horn it into every conversation.

            • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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              5 months ago

              Privacy and guns can be used for defense. Beards generally don’t affect that (though Alexander was of a different opinion and made his soldiers shave so that they couldn’t be grabbed by the beard ; I think same was the reasoning for Roman soldiers shaving their beards and other hair).

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                5 months ago

                You can’t murder a room full of children with pgp.

                I’ll just say it again in the hope that it might dawn on you that the two things are not even remotely similar enough that you can say “this also works for guns”.

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                  5 months ago

                  I’ve already described specifically how they are similar, it might dawn on you that repetition doesn’t strengthen an argument. Not hopeful though.

                  • Naich@lemmings.world
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                    5 months ago

                    What? That they can both be used for defense? Name something that couldn’t ever be used for defense. Your comparison is pointless because the only trait they share is one which is also shared by pretty much everything else on the planet. Like beards, to bring up an earlier example.

        • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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          5 months ago

          What? You think criminals don’t have guns in yours?

          By the way, a country can’t believe anything, it’s an artificial concept on a map.

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              5 months ago

              That’s a weird answer, I didn’t say that obtuseness\pedantry can believe in something.

              You made nobody fail, accusing someone of these traits just means their correctness is socially unpleasant for you.

            • Mubelotix@jlai.lu
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              5 months ago

              You can be anti-guns but he is still right. Criminals do have weapons where I live, even though it’s illegal. Fortunately, we don’t have many criminals since the country is rich

          • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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            5 months ago

            Unironically yes. Out of 1000 crime news I hear about here, maybe one of them is about gun violence. Also I have never ever heard about mass killings here like USA seems to have every week.

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                5 months ago

                Lol is it really that hard for you to believe? I am not just talking about media channels, also just word around the block, multiple YouTube channels and such.

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                  5 months ago

                  Not that hard. I’d say organized crime will have guns regardless. Usual hooligans will do with many things one can imagine.

                  • RogueBanana@lemmy.zip
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                    5 months ago

                    Yes and those organised crimes are almost non existant and not even close to the violence in US.

          • Tja@programming.dev
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            5 months ago

            That’s what I think. That’s what I observed (anecdotally) and what statistics show. When the sentence for having a gun is higher than robbery or drug dealing or whatever, even criminals avoid that shit.

            Why would you think criminals DO have guns in other countries?