They believe in the Jesus their pastor tells them about. They don’t read the Bible.
But I’m not going to call them fake Christians. That’s a ‘no true Scotsman.’ They worship Christ, so they are Christians. It doesn’t matter that they don’t worship the Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the Bible was fictional anyway.
I am not the one calling them fake Christians, God did
James 2:10 “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.” The Bible said to take care of the poor and sick, fairly simple commandment, and they are failing to follow it.
It’s not like jesus is super rightwing sometimes. This is like saying I’m a batman fan despite my idea of batman being a guy who fights with a katana and shoots lasers from his toes because no true Scotsman
Not a logical fallacy. Anyone can claim they worship Christ, but all religion have obligations that if you don’t follow you are clearly not a follower.
No one can follow everything in the Bible. It contradicts itself all over the place.
No one can follow “feed the hungry, heal the sick, and house the houseless”? I understand if it was some contradictory command, but this one clearly isn’t.
I will give an example from Islam since I am more familiar with it. Alcohol is prohibited in Islam yet some people claim to be Muslims and consume it. Those people fall under one of two, no third:
They know they are committing a sin and feel bad about it.
Deny they are committing a sin.
Those who are group 1, are still Muslims but sinners, but group 2 are out out out!
So those who don’t to feed the hungry and deny the obligation, aren’t Christian.
The term used in Islamic jurisprudence for someone who claims to believe in a religion but doesn’t follow it is munafiq i.e. hypocrite. I don’t know what it is called in Christianity/English. But since Islam borrows a lot of concepts, some literally such as shaheed being literal translation from Greek: martyr, and I have heard Christian Arabs use “munafiq”, I would think the Greek word for it will be related to hypocrisy.
I see the point you are trying to make and it has some merit. However, I think there is also merit in distinguishing between like people who say they are Christian but don’t follow anything from the Bible and people who say they are Christian and do.
Like, you can point to most shapes and say “that’s a polygon” but sometimes it’s more helpful to say “that’s a triangle”, “that’s a square”, and "that’s juat a line, not a polygon actually "
They believe in the Jesus their pastor tells them about. They don’t read the Bible.
But I’m not going to call them fake Christians. That’s a ‘no true Scotsman.’ They worship Christ, so they are Christians. It doesn’t matter that they don’t worship the Jesus of the Bible. The Jesus of the Bible was fictional anyway.
How very old school Catholic of them! I guess King Jr wasn’t the only Martin Luther who would have a problem with them 😉
I am not the one calling them fake Christians, God did
James 2:10 “For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it.” The Bible said to take care of the poor and sick, fairly simple commandment, and they are failing to follow it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
They worship Christ. They are Christians.
No one can follow everything in the Bible. It contradicts itself all over the place.
It’s not like jesus is super rightwing sometimes. This is like saying I’m a batman fan despite my idea of batman being a guy who fights with a katana and shoots lasers from his toes because no true Scotsman
Not a logical fallacy. Anyone can claim they worship Christ, but all religion have obligations that if you don’t follow you are clearly not a follower.
No one can follow “feed the hungry, heal the sick, and house the houseless”? I understand if it was some contradictory command, but this one clearly isn’t.
I will give an example from Islam since I am more familiar with it. Alcohol is prohibited in Islam yet some people claim to be Muslims and consume it. Those people fall under one of two, no third:
Those who are group 1, are still Muslims but sinners, but group 2 are out out out!
So those who don’t to feed the hungry and deny the obligation, aren’t Christian.
Okay, what is the religion of someone who worships Christ?
A charlatan. Jesus said faith alone isn’t enough.
James 2:14-18 ESV What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works?
“Charlatan” is not a religion.
Again, what is the religion of someone who worships Christ?
You can use the magic words all you want, but that’s not an answer.
The term used in Islamic jurisprudence for someone who claims to believe in a religion but doesn’t follow it is munafiq i.e. hypocrite. I don’t know what it is called in Christianity/English. But since Islam borrows a lot of concepts, some literally such as shaheed being literal translation from Greek: martyr, and I have heard Christian Arabs use “munafiq”, I would think the Greek word for it will be related to hypocrisy.
Yes, I know they’re hypocrites.
They still worship Christ.
What is their religion?
I see the point you are trying to make and it has some merit. However, I think there is also merit in distinguishing between like people who say they are Christian but don’t follow anything from the Bible and people who say they are Christian and do.
Like, you can point to most shapes and say “that’s a polygon” but sometimes it’s more helpful to say “that’s a triangle”, “that’s a square”, and "that’s juat a line, not a polygon actually "
Fine, what is their religion?