Now that everyone is fat and 4 👀👁️👀 eyes, those are not excuses. When I was 18 I was not even close to being fit to serve. I wear glasses and I wasn’t athletic.
So figure out the way guys! Trump had to take bone spurs! I’m sure you guys can come up with something! After all, how can you serve the Chinese overlords with war wounds right?
I mean they could take the Israel approach and exterminate us. Sorry too busy with my Ps7 Nintendo switcharoo. I think that if worse comes to worse I rather go than send my kids. I’ve had an okay life and my arthritis is starting to hurt. I think the Republicans are hard at work on preventing access to arthritis medication probably. So maybe I could just do my thing in China. Right? Defend our way of living. I want my kids to enjoy the freedoms I had. So I would fight for that now that I’m old and fucked up. Then the kids can join in later like the ruzzians did. They basically sent all their old men out to the meat grinder. Sounds bad. But if you got arthritis and you know people who had it, you would ask for the biggest grenade you could carry. I’d take that thing like a football right into a Chinese operations building or something. I mean, if they were evil and such according to the fear mongering politicians and if I indeed had my arthritis going uncontrolled. So far it’s just an elbow and a pinky.
What was the question again? Get off my lawn hooligans!
Wow, your brain is absolutely shit.
So people can be automatically registered for the draft, but not automatically registered to vote? Seems like bullshit.
You didn’t think the government would actually do something for you, did you?
I wish they would institute another draft. Whatever party was behind it would be gone inside of the decade.
Technically, the USA already required you to sign up for the draft right around the time you received your Social Security Card. The draft has not been used since 1973 and earlier. So this basically has no effect. Even if a draft happened all the same people who would have been drafted before will be drafted now.
American men are supposed to sign up for the draft when they turn 18, this new bill would make that an automatic process.
I think it’s called selective service
I like how you got downvoted for rehashing 16bit when all they did was repeat exactly the same thing me and the article headline said and still got upvotes.
Yes, it’s called the selective service, but it’s colloquially known as draft and that’s what above was referencing
The draft has not been used since 1973 and earlier
One thing I found as I’ve gotten older is that history gets shorter and shorter the older you get.
1973 was so recent bro you have no idea. It was within one human lifetime. That’s really close. That basically just happened.
I don’t really get what point you’re trying to make.
They’re saying “I’M OLD AND TIME’S MOVING FAST SONNY BOY”
I don’t even think he’s over 69 I think he just wants to say the Draft is some impending doom we should be worried about, but at this point if a draft occurs it will probably be for something pretty important.
If it’s important draft everyone then. Not just the men
Your sense of time is too short is what’s being said.
You’re required to sign up within 30 days of your 18th birthday. You should have (well your parents anyway) a social security card within the first year of your life, strange outliers aside.
It’s still technically a crime knowingly not registering, with a $250k fine, even if it hasn’t been prosecuted in decades.
It also bars you from federal government jobs, many federal programs, and grants. Until 2020, it also barred any federal financial aid for education, but that’s changed now.
You should have a Social Security Number when you are born as a citizen of the USA. You register for your card when you turn 18.
I’ve definitely had my social security card since I was like, 12. Before that, my mom had it. Definitely, 100% did not get it at or around 18
Your parents received your ss card after you were born once your SSN was assigned.
You register for the draft when you register to vote.
Trading bodily autonomy for voting isn’t right, especially when half the country is not only exempt but fights any attempt to make it more equal.
Defending only yourself isn’t right, especially when you want all the benefits with none of the costs.
Men are the only ones paying this cost in the US
Kinda a nothing burger really. The military doesn’t want conscripts unless there’s an existential threat to the country.
So there’s two scenarios:
- Selective service continues to exist and is only used if there’s an existential threat to the country
- Selective service is eliminated and is re-instated only if there’s an existential threat to the country
Option 2 is preferable since it eliminates the cost of a program that will likely never be used again. But it still doesn’t eliminate the possibility of a draft since if the country were under an existential threat in the future, legislation can be passed to bring it back. So Option 2 isn’t effectively different from Option 1, other than the cost savings.
As it is, selective service is basically just a political talking point, and a way to “own the libs” or whatever. The best way to argue against it is to make an argument around the cost of a program that doesn’t really accomplish anything. But the libs take the bait and argue about not wanting to be drafted, which isn’t wrong, but that makes the libs look weak in the eyes of many, and it allows Republicans get to make hay about their opposition being weak.
I’m for this. Don’t vote for war mongers when you or your kids or grandkids could be drafted for war.
Registration is already required,and has been for decades. This only automates the thing so people aren’t breaking the law. Super simple stuff.
So I’m not sure what your point is?
Unfortunately there are no non-warmonger candidates in r or d and voting third party is a vote for trump so I guess we’re all fucked amiright
Fuck the draft. Dodge the draft.
Apparently if you have “bone spurs” it’s enough to get you out, just don’t forget what foot you said you had them in.
Frag your CO before they even ship you out.
If you can dodge a draft, you can dodge a ball
Disagree, just make the draft also affect women so it’s not sexist
I agree also require everyone to reregister at 65. Maybe grandpa and granma will think next time
“Hmm I really want lower oil prices but having to be drafted and assigned combat roles in the middle east is something I don’t want”
Good news for you, I guess… this includes making women sign up.
Not what the article said
Are you implying we should blindly accept Yahoo News as a reputable source for all information and disregard everything else?
Can you find a source that says so? I only find sources that say they are not required
But a village of 50 men and 50 women might be able to survive with 40 of those men dead. It most likely won’t survive with 40 of those women dead.
This is why, when shit is so bad that we’re drafting men to fight, we need to let the women stay home if they choose to.
This will help bring down Inflation!
I know I’m not the smartest fork in the kitchen, but how are they able to just pass this when it should be something we get to vote on?
The US is a representative democracy, not a direct democracy. You elect representatives to represent your interests. Or these days, you elect representatives to not represent the other people you don’t like.
Thanks for the reply that helped :)
I mean if you wanna argue that that is the way it should work, I guess we could have that conversation.
(Way too many people I know won’t keep themselves informed enough to vote on representatives, let alone understanding every individual bill well enough to vote on those.)
But if you’re under the impression that that is how it currently works, I guess all I can really do is recommend you take a civics class or something cause that’s wild lmao
Prove to me right now that the average congressional rep knows everything they vote on as much as they should.
Prove to you a thing you just made up that nobody said?
I’m go with nah.
Fine don’t. Continue to believe that Moscow Mitch is better informed and makes wiser decisions than a well read 15 year old.
Remember kids, you can be a draft dodger and be president 😎👉👉
Which would be fine if said draft dodger wasn’t a chickenhawk.
Things are only bad if Donald Trump does them.
No, it’s also bad when Rush Limbaugh and Ted Nugent do it.
Also Bush II’s questionable service record.
You mean like John Kerry? No, wait, he served in Vietnam and was shot at. Who are you thinking of?
You’re going to have to be more specific, I can think of at least 2 that could fit that description.
Something tells me fragging (the original kind) might have a chance of becoming de rigueur again.
Fully automated luxury war slavery
For one, I think this was already required. I remember having to enroll in selective service.
For two though, whoever calls another draft is dead in the water. It’s commonly accepted that starting an actual draft is political suicide.
That said, it would be nice if we could codify that and ban the draft.
Yeah, honestly as long as we aren’t willing to change things in a meaningful way, this is somewhat nice. It’s like voter registration. It should be automatic (assuming it’s required anyway). Sadly we are more likely to make draft registration automatic before voter registration.
I never registered. I got my draft card while I was in boot camp in the '80s. Never filled it out.
Anything that actually required a draft would result in a nuclear exchange before the draft could be called.
If there is a legitimate reason for a draft, a draft may not be necessary anyway. Unless the enemy is offering a peaceful arrangement to everyone they meet, or there’s no way to get your family to safety, I think most people would willingly fight.
You are required to sign up but they usually only can enforce it in ways such as applying for a driver’s license or voter registration. Maybe more kids aren’t applying for drivers licenses and therefore aren’t signing up.
if you never sign up you’re excluded from a number of government jobs such as at the post office.
That would make sense, I never pay attention but it would make sense why so many applications ask about it
It’s bonkers that you have to actively sign up for it. Canada had conscription on the books as an available tool but like… you never actively signed on or were penalized for not doing that paperwork. In 2021 they ended all mandatory military service and two months ago they removed conscription entirely. Not that it’s possible for conscription to not come back as technically it’s not actively banned, but if it did it would have to be written and implemented as law entirely from scratch and be re subject to the full process of new constitutional challenge and could now be subject to gender discriminations to strictly men as required by current civil rights .
There’s something about coercing someone to sign their name to paper to register for conscription that feels wrong to me that just accepting a call to conscription doesn’t. Like they want to reduce your resistance to it by making it “voluntary”.
Many people don’t pay attention. My mother (63) didn’t know me or my brother were egistered when a conversation came up about it last year. Most people are so complacent in accepting every day life because they are worried about living day by day. The concept that a mother who is legally responsible for 2 kids didn’t know they both signed themselves to serve in the military at 16 is baffling from a stand back and look at it mentality. (Only two kids, both sign to give their life away while her and her husban(my father) are the only ones who legally could sign our lives away at that age.)
the federal student loans and grants would not be dispersed if you were not signed up by a certain date
That was apparently repealed in 2020.
Wish it would’ve happened sooner. There was some issue with my school’s financial aid office every freaking semester. A week before classes started, I would get a letter that all my financial aid was canceled for failing to register, and I’d have to go in and prove I had. After the 4th time, they finally took a photocopy of my registration and had me sign an affidavit and appended it to my file.
I had to apply at the post office. I’m pretty sure there was a penalty if I didn’t, like a fine or jail
I wouldn’t put it past the Republican party to bring conscription to the table. Probably with all kinds of exceptions and loopholes to either keep their own kids out of it entirely or guarantee cush domestic desk jobs to show how patriotic they are. Everybody else gets to line up with a rifle.
And with extra psychological torture to the undesirables, and will be sold to their voting base as “antidote to the LGBTQ+ movement”.
It would be disastrous for Republicans. Independents and moderates would be furious
