Trump regularly states what he’s going to do. Trump has said he’s going to be a dictator on day one. Trump has said he wants to round up immigrants and homeless people into camps. Trump’s going to pull out of NATO and let Russia conquer Ukraine. Project 2025 is posted on a website.
Here is Trump saying he will be a dictator on day one:
The fascists are in control of the Republican Party and these are things they want to do. If the MAGA movement succeed in their christo-fascist takeover millions of people are going to die as a result of these policies.
Good? NATO should have been dismantled when the Cold War ended.
Even Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron wanted Europe to have its own army separate from NATO.
and let Russia conquer Ukraine.
If Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine, they would have done so already.
I know I’ll be accused of being on Russia’s side for saying that, but I’m not. I’m just looking at the evidence.
Russia has always described this conflict as a liberation of the Donbas. They took Donbas in just two weeks and since then have been mostly just maintaining their new borders.
The media want us to think that Russia wants to annex Ukraine and the only reason they haven’t advanced is because the Ukraine army is so awesome. And yet this awesome Ukraine army hasn’t managed to retake any territory in two years.
Trump has said he wants to round up immigrants
He wants to deport illegal immigrants, which is the same thing the Democrats want. Biden’s rhetoric on immigration lately is just as hardline as Trump’s.
Democrats chastised Trump for his “build a wall” chant, but the fact is that they supported building a wall until Trump did.
And what are Democrats going to do for homeless people? Are the Democrats going to launch a mass housing iniative for them?
I don’t like that Trump’s brand is “being an asshole”, and I don’t like that 40% of Americans respond positively to that, but the fact is, the Democrats aren’t much different in practice. They’re just nicer about it.
I’ve said this before (over on Reddit), but I actually think Trump was fairly good on international matters (he’s the only president in recent history who didn’t start any new wars), even though he was terrible on domestic matters.
But even when it comes to domestic matters, he’s not substantially different enough from the Democrats to make me want to support Joe Biden after what Biden has done.
Good? NATO should have been dismantled when the Cold War ended.
Putin wants to conquer Europe. This is bad. The ideology is essentially a version of manifest destiny where Russia expands westward until it consumes all of Europe. Also, of course the members of NATO need to maintain their armies.
If Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine, they would have done so already.
I know I’ll be accused of being on Russia’s side for saying that, but I’m not. I’m just looking at the evidence.
Your argument should provide that evidence rather than pretending it exists. Russia’s fascist authoritarian dictatorship has led to military incompetence.
Russia has always described this conflict as a liberation of the Donbas. They took Donbas in just two weeks and since then have been mostly just maintaining their new borders.
The media want us to think that Russia wants to annex Ukraine and the only reason they haven’t advanced is because the Ukraine army is so awesome. And yet this awesome Ukraine army hasn’t managed to retake any territory in two years.
Here are some maps that show what has actually happened in the war:
He wants to deport illegal immigrants, which is the same thing the Democrats want. Biden’s rhetoric on immigration lately is just as hardline as Trump’s.
Trump wants to round up 15 to 20 million people into camps and then deport them. The magnitude of this does not match what the Democrats want to do.
I followed the link you posted in your argument. This is what I found:
Barring some miraculous breakthrough, on Saturday the current government shutdown will become the longest in American history. But it has already hit another historic milestone: It is, by far and away, the stupidest government shutdown in American history.
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In 2019, the federal government will spend a whopping $4.407 trillion. Yet Congress and the president are shutting down the government in a dispute between the $1.3 billion the Democrats have approved for border security and the $5.7 billion the president is demanding — the difference being precisely 0.0998 percent of the total federal budget. In Washington, that is considered a rounding error.
This is about a government shutdown. Other than the misleading title, the Democrats do not want to build Trump’s border wall. Nor is this evidence that Democrats want to deport 15 to 20 million people.
And what are Democrats going to do for homeless people? Are the Democrats going to launch a mass housing iniative for them?
Newsom wants to doing something similar to what Trump has proposed, there’s a whole court case that has made it to the Supreme Court about breaking up homeless camps. The case started in Oregon, but has implications for California. But Newsom actually wants to provide housing and services to people. Newsom erroneously believes these need to be forced on people. When Trump talks about rounding homeless people up it’s to put them in death camps.
While well intentioned by Democrats, it’s going to backfire if Trump takes office. Under Trump, homeless people are going to end up in either prisons or death camps which will end up being the same thing.
Democrats aren’t much different in practice. They’re just nicer about it.
Neo-liberal Democrats wanting to maintain the status quo isn’t the nice version of christo-fascist Republicans wanting to kill millions of people.
(he’s the only president in recent history who didn’t start any new wars)
Trump emboldened Putin to continue his war. Trump emboldened Erdoğan to attack the Kurds. Trump emboldened the Taliban to retake Afghanistan. Trump not declaring war is not a measure of success. He destabilized the world the last time he was in office. Under another Trump term we are likely to see China invade Taiwan and North Korea invade South Korea.
But even when it comes to domestic matters, he’s not substantially different enough from the Democrats to make me want to support Joe Biden after what Biden has done.
Biden got an infrastructure deal done and has cancelled some student debt, among other things. This has a list Biden’s foreign and domestic accomplishments:
Reviewing the evidence shows a stark difference between Biden, a neo-liberal, and Trump, a fascist. The difference between another Biden term and another Trump term is that millions of lives can be saved under another Biden term. Where as Trump will usher in a christo-fascist dictatorship that will end our democracy and destabilize the world. These are vastly different outcomes. edit: typo
Russia says the attack on Kyiv was to destroy munition supplies and wasn’t intended to be an occupation.
That’s a lie.
I can’t know if that’s true or not
Google it. The truth is knowable.
but Russia hasn’t tried any other attacks on Kyiv
That’s because Russia is losing the war.
so I’m tempted to believe it.
Why would you want to believe the lies of a fascist dictatorship? Your argument boils down to mistaking Russia’s defeats at the hands of Ukraine as a nonexistent strategy.
Wow. In just four years. How inspiring.
Biden has accomplished everything with a razor thin majority in Congress in the first two years and then a Republican controlled House in the second two years. It’s impressive.
So they’ve been telling for the past two years while the front line has barely moved.
I already debunked this false claim in my argument.
It’s not a matter of what I want to believe. (To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, facts don’t care about my feelings.)
Facts can’t care about anything. Being tempted implies you want the thing that is being offered. I want to know why you would want to be lied to, because it’s a weird thing to want. Also, your argument provides no facts and misrepresents Russian defeats by Ukraine as strategy that Russia does not have.
There are two competing narratives out there, and one fits the evidence I can see while the other is getting increasingly hard to believe.
There is the truth and Russian propaganda. Your argument has no evidence to support it.
Also, to bring this discussion back to the original topic at hand, Biden is a neo-liberal and Trump is a fascist. They are not the same. Thus it is reasonable that a group that is against Trump’s fascist MAGA movement is anti-fascist.
How?
How are the Republicans going to kill millions of people? What are you suggesting?
Trump regularly states what he’s going to do. Trump has said he’s going to be a dictator on day one. Trump has said he wants to round up immigrants and homeless people into camps. Trump’s going to pull out of NATO and let Russia conquer Ukraine. Project 2025 is posted on a website.
Here is Trump saying he will be a dictator on day one:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-dictator-authoritarian-presidential-election-f27e7e9d7c13fabbe3ae7dd7f1235c72
Here is Trump on immigrants:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/01/politics/trump-immigration-what-matters/index.html
Here is Trump on homeless people:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-homelessness-policy-tent-cities-b2322102.html
Here is Trump on NATO, this is a version from the way back machine without a subscription wall:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240607053700/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/01/trump-2024-reelection-pull-out-of-nato-membership/676120/
Here is project 2025:
https://www.project2025.org/
The fascists are in control of the Republican Party and these are things they want to do. If the MAGA movement succeed in their christo-fascist takeover millions of people are going to die as a result of these policies.
Good? NATO should have been dismantled when the Cold War ended.
Even Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron wanted Europe to have its own army separate from NATO.
If Russia wanted to conquer Ukraine, they would have done so already.
I know I’ll be accused of being on Russia’s side for saying that, but I’m not. I’m just looking at the evidence.
Russia has always described this conflict as a liberation of the Donbas. They took Donbas in just two weeks and since then have been mostly just maintaining their new borders.
The media want us to think that Russia wants to annex Ukraine and the only reason they haven’t advanced is because the Ukraine army is so awesome. And yet this awesome Ukraine army hasn’t managed to retake any territory in two years.
He wants to deport illegal immigrants, which is the same thing the Democrats want. Biden’s rhetoric on immigration lately is just as hardline as Trump’s.
Democrats chastised Trump for his “build a wall” chant, but the fact is that they supported building a wall until Trump did.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-were-for-a-wall-before-they-were-against-it/2019/01/10/9d114048-14f1-11e9-90a8-136fa44b80ba_story.html
And what are Democrats going to do for homeless people? Are the Democrats going to launch a mass housing iniative for them?
I don’t like that Trump’s brand is “being an asshole”, and I don’t like that 40% of Americans respond positively to that, but the fact is, the Democrats aren’t much different in practice. They’re just nicer about it.
I’ve said this before (over on Reddit), but I actually think Trump was fairly good on international matters (he’s the only president in recent history who didn’t start any new wars), even though he was terrible on domestic matters.
But even when it comes to domestic matters, he’s not substantially different enough from the Democrats to make me want to support Joe Biden after what Biden has done.
Putin wants to conquer Europe. This is bad. The ideology is essentially a version of manifest destiny where Russia expands westward until it consumes all of Europe. Also, of course the members of NATO need to maintain their armies.
No, NATO countries have been supplying weapons to Ukraine.
Your argument should provide that evidence rather than pretending it exists. Russia’s fascist authoritarian dictatorship has led to military incompetence.
Russia tried to take Kyiv and lost.
Here are some maps that show what has actually happened in the war:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
Ukraine retook territory by November 2022 which is in the last two years.
Also, Ukraine only recently got the green light to strike into Russian territory. This is already having a huge impact on the war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8qVOdygE2g
Trump wants to round up 15 to 20 million people into camps and then deport them. The magnitude of this does not match what the Democrats want to do.
I followed the link you posted in your argument. This is what I found:
This is about a government shutdown. Other than the misleading title, the Democrats do not want to build Trump’s border wall. Nor is this evidence that Democrats want to deport 15 to 20 million people.
Newsom wants to doing something similar to what Trump has proposed, there’s a whole court case that has made it to the Supreme Court about breaking up homeless camps. The case started in Oregon, but has implications for California. But Newsom actually wants to provide housing and services to people. Newsom erroneously believes these need to be forced on people. When Trump talks about rounding homeless people up it’s to put them in death camps.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/23/us/oregon-homelessness-case-supreme-court-california.html
While well intentioned by Democrats, it’s going to backfire if Trump takes office. Under Trump, homeless people are going to end up in either prisons or death camps which will end up being the same thing.
Trump seems to love the death penalty. This reporting suggests Trump wants to use firing squads.
Neo-liberal Democrats wanting to maintain the status quo isn’t the nice version of christo-fascist Republicans wanting to kill millions of people.
Trump emboldened Putin to continue his war. Trump emboldened Erdoğan to attack the Kurds. Trump emboldened the Taliban to retake Afghanistan. Trump not declaring war is not a measure of success. He destabilized the world the last time he was in office. Under another Trump term we are likely to see China invade Taiwan and North Korea invade South Korea.
Biden got an infrastructure deal done and has cancelled some student debt, among other things. This has a list Biden’s foreign and domestic accomplishments:
https://www.upworthy.com/joe-biden-s-23-greatest-achievements-as-president-of-the-united-states-so-far
As opposed to Trump’s crime spree:
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-donald-trumps-three-indictments-78-felony-charges-1816951
Reviewing the evidence shows a stark difference between Biden, a neo-liberal, and Trump, a fascist. The difference between another Biden term and another Trump term is that millions of lives can be saved under another Biden term. Where as Trump will usher in a christo-fascist dictatorship that will end our democracy and destabilize the world. These are vastly different outcomes. edit: typo
Russia says the attack on Kyiv was to destroy munition supplies and wasn’t intended to be an occupation.
I can’t know if that’s true or not, but Russia hasn’t tried any other attacks on Kyiv, so I’m tempted to believe it.
Wow. In just four years. How inspiring.
That’s a lie.
Google it. The truth is knowable.
That’s because Russia is losing the war.
Why would you want to believe the lies of a fascist dictatorship? Your argument boils down to mistaking Russia’s defeats at the hands of Ukraine as a nonexistent strategy.
Biden has accomplished everything with a razor thin majority in Congress in the first two years and then a Republican controlled House in the second two years. It’s impressive.
So they’ve been telling for the past two years while the front line has barely moved.
It’s not a matter of what I want to believe. (To paraphrase Ben Shapiro, facts don’t care about my feelings.)
There are two competing narratives out there, and one fits the evidence I can see while the other is getting increasingly hard to believe.
I already debunked this false claim in my argument.
Facts can’t care about anything. Being tempted implies you want the thing that is being offered. I want to know why you would want to be lied to, because it’s a weird thing to want. Also, your argument provides no facts and misrepresents Russian defeats by Ukraine as strategy that Russia does not have.
There is the truth and Russian propaganda. Your argument has no evidence to support it.
Also, to bring this discussion back to the original topic at hand, Biden is a neo-liberal and Trump is a fascist. They are not the same. Thus it is reasonable that a group that is against Trump’s fascist MAGA movement is anti-fascist.