What made you choose Apple?
Well designed in every way
Vertical integration
Security
Privacy
Competitive processors
Progressive company
Pretty ui
Vertical integration is precisely what stops me from buying apple.
Why?
Because I have invested in various non apple technologies (phones, pcs, earphones, vr headsets) which don’t play nicely with iOS
So if you’d picked differently when you started out you’d be fine with it?
Vertical integration doesn’t mean that other devices can’t play nicely with Apple devices or vise versa. The only reason they don’t is because Apple wants to be dicks.
You are correct. It’s the horizontal exclusion I dislike, not the vertical integration.
Vertical integration and progressive company are good for Apple but for the consumer they are irrelevant I think.
Security is ok, privacy must be a joke, siri is listening, just like google. You have to be logged in to install an app from the store etc…
Pretty limited ui. Some might like it, some may don’t, but they can’t change nothing.
Siri is only “listening” for a key phrase. Siri processes locally, unlike Google Assistant.
Siri learns what you need. Not who you are. What you ask Siri isn’t associated with your Apple ID. The power of the Apple Neural Engine ensures that the audio of your requests never leaves your iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, or Apple Vision Pro unless you choose to share it. On-device intelligence makes your experience with Siri personal — learning your preferences and what you might want — while maintaining your privacy. And, of course, what you share with Siri is never shared with advertisers.
One company spent years building privacy centric image, literally telling governments they cannot get into their clients’ devices; the other spent years finding new and exciting ways to serve targeted ads.
It’s also the reason why Siri was first to market and fell behind Alexa and Google Assistant so quickly. It took Apple a decade (2011-2021) to create the hashed then encrypted relay system to collect private and anonymous recorded feedback from customers who opt-in to improving Siri.
Competition just kept everything as user feedback data. I’ve read horror stories about the people who worked at Alexa recording review sites.
this is beautiful
EDIT: this was beautiful
I LOVE APPLE
U mad?
2 minute old post with no replies, truly unheard of on Lemmy.
What got me was they ruined their own post, and then had to edit it because they were surprised they ruined their own post?
Go back to the Linux circle jerk that is the rest of Lemmy.
Integration with their other products. And I’m too old to enjoy fiddling with stuff anymore.
The first time I copied something on my phone and then seamlessly pasted it on my laptop, I was pretty blown away. The integration is a major perk.
But try copying from Apple to Windows
Why would I
If you already have a Windows PC and you buy an apple product.
It was a nightmare getting music on and off an iPod using windows.
It put me right off Apple.
Does android have this copy paste function on windows? (Never owned a android phone, serious question)
On android I can connect via USB and just drag the music onto the device.
I couldn’t do this when I had an iPod. I had to go through iTunes and that had to sync before I could do anything.
See that’s not what we’re talking about here. what’s cool in the apple ecosystem is I can copy something on my iPhone to the clipboard and then press cmd-v on my Mac to paste it (Or visa versa). It’s these little continuity things in the ecosystem apple haters don’t even know about I think. Another example, if I place my iPad next to my Mac I can push my mouse cursor of the screen onto the iPad, grab a file, drag it back to my Mac. Wirelessly.
I always found it really easy with iTunes
…I still find it easy with iTunes as I’m still using my iPod 18 years later
ITunes on a mac I presume.
ITunes on a PC didn’t work well over networks.
Nope, on a PC.
Never tried it over a network though, I’ve always just plugged it in to the computer where the music collection is.
Can you copy and paste from Android to Windows? How about Android to ChromeOS?
Can you copy and paste from Android to Windows?
Yes. Plugged in as MTP has never given me a problem transferring mp3s. No need to rebuild databases. Just drag and drop.
How about Android to ChromeOS?
Never tried.
CaptainEffort and I were referring to the standard copy and paste feature on all OSs, but copying on one device and wirelessly pasting it on another. It’s a very convenient piece of continuity.
Although, what you’re talking about has worked since the release of the Files app in iOS 11, seven years ago. When you connect an iPhone to Windows, it appears as a drive now. You can drag and drop any files once you authenticate.
Yes. My experience was many years ago, but it was annoying enough to put me off trying to integrate Apple with other ecosystems.
You’re misunderstanding them… They’re talking about clipboard sharing between iPhone and Mac. You select some text on your phone, copy it and then you can paste that text on your Mac.
They’re not talking about copying and pasting files.
It even feels more like magic if you use the three-finger pinch to copy and paste.
Privacy, security, reliability, creative focused design, powerful hardware and software, great customer support, ease of use from GUI to Terminal (zsh and bash)
I like that I am their primary customer rather than advertisers as with Google.
I like that their desktop OS is a Unix variant unlike Microsoft’s (although this matters to me less and less over time).
Because they’re not Google.
I never really liked them growing up, but in recent years there have been some really good varieties popping up. Cosmic Crisp, Sugarbee, Kanzi.
I never really liked them growing up, but in recent years there have been some really good varieties popping up. Cosmic Crisp, Sugarbee, Kanzi.
Vertical integration (the ecosystem), decent UIs (that the GNOME guys are unable to get close to), higher level of security and privacy than most stock Android phones out there.
Android is great in theory but the amount of pre-installed garbage, material design and Google / vendor powered spyware is way too much for my liking. I’m not saying that Apple doesn’t track things, because they do, but at least there’s no vendor garbage and you can go through the Settings and disable everything you don’t need, restrict Apps from running in the background etc. If you don’t upload your data into iCloud it will be way more private than the average Android phone.
Another thing I dislike about non-Apple phones is that, besides the Pixel and a few others, their bootloader and storage security is a joke, if someone gets your device you can assume they’ll get to your data.
The iPhone Mini.
I love my iPhone 13 Mini. Only thing I’d change is swap the wide-angle for a telephoto. Otherwise, it’s perfect.
At the time, it was video editing. I went to film school & was a post production supervisor for 15 years in LA.
Having a laptop I could edit on & just knowing how to use Final Cut, gave me a major leg up starting my career.
I knew more about nonlinear editing than most of the post staff as a production assistant, because Avid made it too cost prohibitive for prosumers & students with their proprietary hardware.
Then Apple pooped out FCPX & gave Avid/Adobe the market back.
Still stuck with Apple though, just really fell into the environment & have been able to keep everything moving rather seamlessly.
Audio/video ecosystem and Security
Steve Job’s second sprint at Apple was exciting! What fun that was. I remember the Halo demo, the iPod, iPhone and the introduction of WiFi and iMacs and iBooks. The transition to a Unix based OS! It really was something back then.
Their audio and video editing software was fantastic at the time.
Apple had wireless audio working by the late 2000s. The hardware still works today. Way ahead of everyone else. Hell those little Apple AirPort Expresses even had the ability to use digital or analog inputs on the same port. Playing audio throughout my house has been a non issue and something that has just always worked and couldn’t be found anywhere else at the time.
The appleTV was the first commercial streaming device to my knowledge to properly interface with the TV. ( XBMC software could do this ). It would adjust resolution and match framerate and give you a proper experience. Again, way ahead of the game and the only place to find the tech at the time. I still use ATVs today.
To be fair that’s where it ends. The iPhone brings it all together, but I mostly leverage open source software like home assistant to bring new life into it and pull the tech out of the walled garden.
They just have a better track record with security. Which is why I don’t mind using an ATV over the built in spyware that TVs have installed these days.
I left Apple when I got rid of my iPhone 3 and didn’t look back until last year. In the mean time, iOS has grown up nicely, the services are really well integrated, and it’s pretty low on bugs.
Contrast to Google where every OS update to Android makes the UI more and more similar to iOS, but a shittier version of it. Their home assistant has been losing features and the overall recognition has gotten demonstrably worse as time goes on. It annoys me to no end that Android doesn’t have any native ability to resize a photo before emailing it, so you either send a 7MB photo or go through too many ridiculous steps to resize it first. That’s not even counting the services that Google kills all the time, making any investment into their ecosystem unreliable in the long term.
I’m not using Apple now because I’m loyal and like them. It’s because Google has put so much effort into making their own phone a shitty knockoff. If I’m paying premium prices for a flagship phone, might as well go with the one that works better.
This is a great point. I’ve switched between Android and iOS over the years. The past 4 years I’ve been on Android but later this year I plan to switch back to iPhone because they’ve leapt ahead again. Google has let Android languish. They don’t add user delight features anymore and what they do have is poorly implemented.
Apple is constantly adding features that people USE in real life, like Accident detection, fall detection, satellite calling, memoji, Facetime, iMessage, Find my devices, UWB shows you with an arrow on the screen exactly where your loved on is in a crowd or your airpods behind the couch etc
Apple fitness is the best out there and Watch is hands down the best fitness device. And it works great with iPhone.
There are too many things to list but the general rule of thumb is that apple adds delight and useful stuff but Google only adds things that benefit IT like circle to search. That’s just a way to get you using Google search instead of a different search engine.
When an OEM like Samsung’s One UI is better than stock android, you know you have a problem. Plus the fragmentation: something that is on my android device may not be on my wife’s or my friends, or in a different place or whatever.
Average Android users don’t know quick share exists at all. So it’s always off on their phone so if you want to quick share something it’s quicker to send it on WhatsApp than to teach them what quick share is and how to enable it… Whereas every iPhone user knows airdrop and that’s nothing to turn on.
Even the recent customisation additions Apple has made are better implemented than on Android where it’s a clunky process to add a widget, they look terrible and Devs have limited access. Even the bedtime feature where iPhone displays a clock on the screen when docked and charging is excellent for the average user. Why hasn’t Android had this year’s ago??? And still doesn’t!
Plus magsafe is genius. The incredible accessories and ease of use is fantastic.
I can’t wait to switch back to iPhone later this year!
Peer pressure, obv
