• Facebones@reddthat.com
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    5 months ago

    "Everyone I disagree with is an agitator, now shut the fuck up about candidates earning their votes and do as you’re told because ONLY WE can save the country from fascist policies (even though Biden is doing half of it himself!)

    No theres nothing fascist about that attitude or our incessant need to spread misinformation about anyone who thinks Biden sucks, SHUT UP AND FALL IN LINE OR ELSE!"

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      Yeah ok. Plenty of people were saying the same thing while letting Hitler rise to power too. But what could we possibly learn from history?

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        You do, of course, realize Hitler was put into power by the conservatives, right? Like, von Pappen was Centre Party, von Hindenburg was a nationalist. They turned to Hitler to avoid losing power to the left.

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      5 months ago

      And come November, what are you suggesting? Biden or Trump, because those are your only viable choices.

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        And they’re our only viable choices, why?

        Because people refuse to vote for anybody else, even though the duopoly parties are effectively the same picture. People obsess over the “World ending” scenario but people are always saying the world is going to end - It’s just a boogeyman to keep people voting duopoly, Democrat’s ONLY platform for decades has been “We aren’t Republican, and Republicans will end the world as you know it.”

        Of course, it’s not just pres. People need to run and vote for non-duopoly candidates all the way down, and once establishment candidates start losing votes they’ll either shift their positions or double down strengthening the non-duopoly candidates. Ain’t nobody moving left so long as you keep rewarding them for sprinting further and further right.

        People have made American politics like training a dog not to bark but you’re giving them a treat everytime they bark and punishing them when they don’t bark then wondering why they bark all the time.

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          They’re our only viable choices now because the primaries are over, and as much as people here want a super leftist candidate, the reality is that when it’s time to vote, those candidates don’t get enough votes either because these same people don’t actually vote, or this stance isn’t nearly as popular as some may think. I say this all as a Bernie supporter, but vocally against the disinformation agents who push agendas like “both sides” or the previous “Bernie or Bust” mantra.

          Like it or not, the reality is, come the general election it’s either Biden or Trump. Unfortunately, anything other than a Biden vote helps Trump.

          Gnash teeth and complain all you want, but that’s reality. Anyone pushing another agenda is lying or naive.

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            The way y’all treat our political system is proof that America is already and has always been fascist. Election after election, decade after decade, the entire Democratic platform is saying “We aren’t them” then doing half of what they wanted to do anyway. People CAN make change if they stop rewarding democrats for sprinting right, and if they can’t - Well, that’s just proof that we AREN’T free, innit?

            “ONLY WE CAN SAVE THE COUNTRY AND IF YOU DON’T SUPPORT US YOU’RE THE ENEMY” It’s the only argument Democrats have, and like it or not - that’s fascist messaging. Blue fascism is still fascism.