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  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world
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    That’s basically the Atkins diet (Keto) without enough nutrition. It’ll function like a very short, very uncomfortable, malnourished crash diet.

    You’ll spend the first two weeks craving carbs and sugars like your life depends on it. It’s awful. After that “break in” period, the cravings mostly go away.

    But that’s not all. So much as lick a piece of candy or chew on some bread, and you’ll get a large dopamine rush followed by carb-craving mode again. If sheer willpower and deferred rewards are at all a problem for you, this might feel like one of the hardest things you’ve ever tried to do.

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      Been on keto for a decade with breaks here and there. Currently two pounds below goal weight. Feel great and blood numbers are excellent. Changed my life.

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        That’s awesome. Glad that’s working for you! If you have any tips on building willpower for the rest of us, please share, and thank you.

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          I thought I posted a reply but apparently I did not. Generally, my advice is that you need to treat everything like a really long journey and let yourself take breaks for birthdays or trips as appropriate, but get right back on track Monday morning.

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      Did keto for a while preparing for some on-camera work. I’ve never looked more cut and never been so miserable. 9/10 doctors do not recommend. The 10th one has an eating disorder.

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        I lost 40lbs on keto and after the first week of keto flu, I felt great. No sugar crashes, no energy level drops and overall, more energy than usual. I stopped after six weeks as I couldn’t deal with the lack of flavour and texture in the food I was eating. I reached a good weight that I’ve maintained, 7 years later.

        One thing it taught me, was to reduce the amount I eat and to balance things out if I eat more carbs than usual.

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        I agree on those stats. Don’t forget: Atkins himself died from heart disease. But hey, at least you have the pics to prove it.

        Were it me, the potential for humor would be impossible to ignore:

        Me: “This diet is miserable, don’t do this.”

        Also me: shows pics looking more shredded that a bowl of mini-wheats

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        I feel you. Hard cheese, bacon, and pickled eggs were my go-to. Anything with strong flavors. I did that for about a year and then stopped once I hit my weight goal.

        In the middle of all that, I noticed that vegetables started to taste sweet as they do contain small amounts of sugar. Especially cabbage. I kind of miss that.

        A workaround I employed was to eat lots of kimchi. Fermented foods like that contain sugar alcohols which taste sweet(ish), but are not digestible as such.

    • hellofriend@lemmy.worldOP
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      I actually tried keto some years ago on a lark. I quickly learned to avoid supermarkets since I could smell all the sugar in the baking aisle halfway across the store. Before posting this, I didn’t think such a high-protein, low-fat dirt could result in ketosis but I was educated by another user on how the process actually works.

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        I forgot about the smells. My sense of smell shifted to be way more sensitive to sugars and starches too - it was tough.

        I didn’t bother trying to track fat intake and wound up losing 2+ lbs a month that way; not bragging, but my goal wasn’t all that big. I probably could have done things faster by cutting more fat, but it was already hard enough.

        I was educated by another user on how the process actually works.

        Fascinating, isn’t it? It’s like each of us is just full of survival mechanisms.

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    some brain damage: malnutrition tends to aggravate or cause brain damage.

    I’m a brain damage survivor: it sucks, it takes decades to undo ( neuroplasticity takes time to do rewiring ), and life is never going to be what it could have been.

    Don’t damage people’s brains.

    'tis a good rule, eh?

    _ /\ _

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    Obvious lack of many vitamines and some minerals. And obvious lack of energy / calories (depending on your need).

    The impact after 1 month depends very much on your state before. For a healthy person I guess it is not dangerous at all, but you would feel weak.

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    You’d become malnourished. You’re missing C, folate, iron, etc. you’d live, but you’d be sick and you’d have damaged your body.

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        I did my phd studying the chemistry of vitamins, specifically, and iron, specifically. Scurvy can kick in after a month. If this person is a woman and menstruating, anemia can kick in within a month.

        Jesus, Lemmy is full of the same arrogant fucktards as reddit.

        lol.

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      It would probably take more than a month to show signs of malnutrition though, assuming OP is eating reasonably healthy currently.

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        It might not be to the point of permanent damage, but you certainly wouldn’t be feeling good. You probably wouldn’t be iron deficient, but a lot of vitamins are only stored in small amounts in the body.

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          True, but people can go on extended fasts without malnutrition concerns. Usually those are in overweight folks though (at least what I am thinking of) so maybe they have deeper reserves.

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    Aside from the malnourishment others have already mentioned, you’ll be spending a lot of time on the toilet…

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      Hemorrhoids is a preventable condition, you’re not supposed to sit there and push. Just get up and do drink water or eat fiber. Try hot coffee or warm milk or a yogurt drink. No one needs to suffer from hemorrhoids at all, I am surprised there are still people who do. Should be a unit in middle school health classes to not force shitting

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        You are not permitted hot coffee, warm milk, or a yogurt drink. You are permitted 750g of cottage cheese, each day, for a month.

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        Got mine along with my first baby. Another example of blaming women for legitimate health issues?

        Agree about fiber, but more specifically, psyllium fiber like metamucil, and vegetable fiber have positive effects whereas nuts or seeds, especially flax, tear it open and cause bleeding even if it’s been healed for months. Yogurt can also be constipating, despite the claims of probiotics.

        More to the point, there’s zero fiber in cottage cheese.

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          Got mine along with my first baby. Another example of blaming women for legitimate health issues?

          Sorry to know that! I was only talking about hemorrhoids from forcing shitting. Didn’t know they could happen with child birth, but makes sense

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    4 months ago

    Since the comments indicate this is really a food budget challenge, let’s talk about that. What is your monthly budget for food? Do you have any dietary restrictions you want to target?

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      I target about $400/month for two big kids and two preschool aged kids, and largely manage to hit my target. I shop almost exclusively at Aldi, and our diets are very heavy in dairy, crackers, frozen veggies and involve a weekly taco night and pizza night. Oh and about a dozen or two sandwiches a week.

      I often have toast or vanilla yogurt for breakfast and a sandwich for lunch. I’ve been trying to reduce sugars over the last couple of years (I’m not actually tracking it, but just watching for high values in any processed foods I eat, and making buying decisions partly based on the sugar content)

    • hellofriend@lemmy.worldOP
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      My budget at the moment is CAD$250 per month. 750g of cottage cheese a month would run me $225 at $7.49 a package. As others have indicated, it’s an unhealthily low amount of calories despite it meeting my protein requirements. The only dietary restriction that I need to target is getting enough protein for maintenance of muscle mass. The reasons are twofold: firstly, as I’ve indicated elsewhere, I have had issues with ED in the past. I fear that losing muscle mass would cause a relapse and I can’t afford that at present. More importantly, however, is that my current employment is fairly physical, so I can’t afford to get weaker either.

      So, to summarize: $250/month, maximizing protein per dollar.

      Issues with cottage cheese idea:

      • Unfulfilling psychologically
      • Potential for malnutrition/health complications
      • Extremely low-calorie

      Ideas to remedy the situation:

      • Cheap carbs (potatoes, flour, pasta/ramen)
      • Making things from raw (e.g. milk -> cottage cheese, flour -> bread)
      • Cheap meat

      I think animal protein needs to be a part of the solution. Tried vegetarianism in the past and I couldn’t function well on it. But all animal protein in Canada is expensive, either due to supply management (eggs and dairy), price gouging, supply and demand (e.g. price of chicken breast is ludicrous), or some other unknown factor(s). So plant based protein should also be part of the solution in spite of its lower quality. Others have suggested dried beans/lentils.

      It would be worthwhile to make things from raw. I can save roughly a dollar per kg of cottage cheese if I make the cottage cheese myself from milk. I can also use the byproducts in the making of bread, furthering the value and capturing all protein. There will be a significant time cost in doing this.

      At the moment we’re looking at a diet of homemade cottage cheese, bread, and beans. If I can save enough doing this then I could incorporate vegetables as well, but it might be better to just take a multivitamin and eat the psychological cost. This will only be for a month, potentially two, and hopefully not more. I think I can go that long without becoming too miserable. I’d love to hear some feedback if you have any.

      (Bonus solution: find a better paying job.)

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        I can’t tell if you’re over-thinking, under-thinking, or just plain havent invested time into grocery planning.

        1. an 8kg bag of basmati or jasmine rice can be found for $15 (freshco), if you have one cup (dry, 200g) of rice that will last you 40 meals. It’s about 200 calories per serving and has vitamin B as well as a handful of minerals.

        2. Chicken can be found for $3/lb (food basics) or less if you are patient and shop around and is ~120g protein per lb of meat

        3. Add in some beans $2.97 at walmart for a 900g bag of dry kidney beans, each serving gets you fiber and protein, also 25 servings.

        $110 per month and you have staples and 60+g of protein per day. That leaves $35 per week to shop sales/flash food/etc for fruit, veg, and other meat.

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            Do you have any Asian/Indian/other ethnic grocers? Stores with a butcher counter? Are there farms nearby? you can troll whatever grocery stores you do have near you for last day of sale meats/produce and as long as you cook or freeze them the same day or the next day, they’re perfectly fine. From some of your comments, you live out west, maybe try to find a few friends to split a pig, that can get the price per pound way down.

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    Weight loss. I don’t like cottage cheese but I do something similar with greek yogurt, eggs, and chicken breast. High protein is easy weight loss for me. Always listen to your body.

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      And if your doing a high protein diet make sure to watch your kidney function, make sure your doc does a kidney panel with every physical. I do love carb high protein for several months and my kidney numbers went from good to not terrible but not good either.

  • cum@lemmy.cafe
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    It’s a scientific fact that you are what you eat. So following that logic, you would become a cottage cheese slime.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    So I can’t answer your question exactly, but, as many here know at this point, I have been suffering through an illness where I have not eaten any solid food since last August (please no medical advice). Before I got, with the help of doctors, settled on a liquid diet of 6 Ensures and 4 V8s a day, I lost 80 pounds- 260 to 180, I was dizzy and lightheaded all the time from the lack of electrolytes, and while I still don’t have much energy and have to rest for a while after walking the dogs for half an hour, I couldn’t even walk a couple of blocks.

    That said, my blood panels show everything is normal, so I’m clearly not dying. It’s not exactly a great quality of life, especially since our entire society is based around food in every conceivable way, but it is survivable. In fact, one good thing came out of it- I no longer have high blood pressure or high cholesterol, so I don’t have to take pills to counteract those anymore.

    • hellofriend@lemmy.worldOP
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      I’m sorry to hear you’re going through that. I can sort of imagine what you’re going through, and it’s certainly not fun, but it’s probably not a 1:1 situation. I really hope you get better though.

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            Sorry, I mean that I agree, it’s not a 1:1 comparison, but it might lead you down the road to finding the right sort of comparison by putting my experience with the experiences of others.

            • hellofriend@lemmy.worldOP
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              Oh yeah, true. I’ve already decided based on feedback that this isn’t a good way to meet my dietary needs without breaking the bank. I’m just proud to say that the extreme measures I’m considering aren’t due to an ED this time around. Just poverty this time.

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                Poverty sucks ass, I’ve been there. That said, you can get by for a long time with beans, rice and some veggies. Not a fun diet, but better than starving.

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                  Well, that’s kinda the chief problem. Last time I did that I suffered brain fog the entire time. Same thing happened when I tried vegetarianism. And on top of that, I lost a surprising amount of muscle mass on beans and rice. I think I need more protein than that diet can offer. It’s just a shame that it’s so bloody expensive…