So even thought more is being done now than ever before in human history to curb CO2 output, the levels are rising faster now than they ever have? Kinda seems like all the “green” shit we’ve been paying more for doesn’t do anything.
If we weren’t doing any of the “green shit” that we’ve been working in for decades we’d probably be a decade further down the catastrophe hole than we are.
Problem is, we’re ADDING shit. While building solar panels, we’re also still building coal plants, bigger cars, consuming ever more from the other side of the planet.
We need to de globalize our economies. And even politically, it would not be a bad thing with the ever more power of China.
Problem is, it’s gonna cut either in billionairs benefits…
It’s dumb lazy ass thinking. Yeah we have been increasing green energy but CO2 output has also increased dramatically and has always been underreported. Stopping green energy is completely backwards. We need a hell of a lot more of it.
What? We’re burning more fossil fuels than ever and the earth feedback loops seem to be kicking off. Just because we’re also expanding use of less destructive energy sources doesn’t mean we’re curbing output. Making things worse slightly less quickly isn’t making things better.
You can see that from 2000 to 2021, renewable energy usage grew faster than any other type. However, coal, oil, and gas usage still grew, by a lot (with a couple recent dips that don’t appear to constitute a trend yet). Overall energy usage is increasing and that is unlikely to change. For now we’re merely slowing the growth of fossil fuel usage. Slowing down is not the same as reversing course.
So yeah, it’s true that “more is being done now than ever before”, but we’re operating from a baseline of nearly zero from 40 years ago. It’s easy to grow in proportional terms when you’re tiny to begin with.
Out of all the comments here, this is the only one to bring data and a legitimate argument, so I commend you.
You’re right, we are still growing overall energy usage and the balance is not being picked up solely by alternative energy. But that’s not really my point.
We keep hearing about this climate change topic in ways that put the responsibility on the general consumer, but clearly that is not solving the issue. Maybe the issue is that the type of alternatives we are picking aren’t actually working. Maybe the issue isn’t how people get to work but how they’re entirely reliant one getting the things they need to survive being supplied through unsustainable means.
I’ve had people shame me for driving a gas powered car but the reality is my Corolla puts out next to nothing compared to the shear volume it takes to get me a solar powered phone charger off of Amazon. Think about food and clothes and shelter. How much pollution does it take to fill a wardrobe. People need to think about things other than basic transportation. Bicycles aren’t going to make the planet greener.
So even thought more is being done now than ever before in human history to curb CO2 output, the levels are rising faster now than they ever have? Kinda seems like all the “green” shit we’ve been paying more for doesn’t do anything.
If we weren’t doing any of the “green shit” that we’ve been working in for decades we’d probably be a decade further down the catastrophe hole than we are.
Problem is, we’re ADDING shit. While building solar panels, we’re also still building coal plants, bigger cars, consuming ever more from the other side of the planet.
We need to de globalize our economies. And even politically, it would not be a bad thing with the ever more power of China.
Problem is, it’s gonna cut either in billionairs benefits…
So won’t be done before it’s too late.
This comment has antivaxxer energy.
Solid argument! Good job.
It’s dumb lazy ass thinking. Yeah we have been increasing green energy but CO2 output has also increased dramatically and has always been underreported. Stopping green energy is completely backwards. We need a hell of a lot more of it.
What? We’re burning more fossil fuels than ever and the earth feedback loops seem to be kicking off. Just because we’re also expanding use of less destructive energy sources doesn’t mean we’re curbing output. Making things worse slightly less quickly isn’t making things better.
This chart on Wikipedia sums it up neatly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_supply_and_consumption#/media/File:Global_Energy_Consumption.svg
You can see that from 2000 to 2021, renewable energy usage grew faster than any other type. However, coal, oil, and gas usage still grew, by a lot (with a couple recent dips that don’t appear to constitute a trend yet). Overall energy usage is increasing and that is unlikely to change. For now we’re merely slowing the growth of fossil fuel usage. Slowing down is not the same as reversing course.
So yeah, it’s true that “more is being done now than ever before”, but we’re operating from a baseline of nearly zero from 40 years ago. It’s easy to grow in proportional terms when you’re tiny to begin with.
Out of all the comments here, this is the only one to bring data and a legitimate argument, so I commend you.
You’re right, we are still growing overall energy usage and the balance is not being picked up solely by alternative energy. But that’s not really my point.
We keep hearing about this climate change topic in ways that put the responsibility on the general consumer, but clearly that is not solving the issue. Maybe the issue is that the type of alternatives we are picking aren’t actually working. Maybe the issue isn’t how people get to work but how they’re entirely reliant one getting the things they need to survive being supplied through unsustainable means.
I’ve had people shame me for driving a gas powered car but the reality is my Corolla puts out next to nothing compared to the shear volume it takes to get me a solar powered phone charger off of Amazon. Think about food and clothes and shelter. How much pollution does it take to fill a wardrobe. People need to think about things other than basic transportation. Bicycles aren’t going to make the planet greener.