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    LOL it’s hilarious that rob fucking schneider is the only “celebrity” they can get to trumpet their bullshit

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      As a comedy enthusiast, I’ve enjoyed some of his work since he was on SNL. Got about 90 seconds into his last stand up comedy special and noped out.

      The guy is both Jewish and Asian. You’d think he’d be a bit smarter.

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        He’s also been wealthy and famous for a solid two decades, he may be on the C list, but he hasn’t had to worry about money in decades, and he had been living the the Newport culture of rich LA assholes who do a lot of dumb shit because they think being rich means they’re also smart, like being anti-vax, thinking PETA is an innocuous animal rights charity, thinking cancer is an dietary issue, having $10k ‘‘purebred’’ dogs makes you an animal lover, and that cooking your own food is a really creative hobby.

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          Cooking is a creative hobby. I invented the spanakomosa. It’s spanakopita filling wrapped in samosa dough and deep fried.

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            I invented the Ethiopian burrito: yemisir wat wrapped up in injera like a burrito. Problem is it only lasts for about three seconds before dissolving into a mess.

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        i was a tween when he was the “comic relief” in the stallone dredd movie, and rob fucking schneider was the most cringe thing i remember about that shit. and no, nothing else he did was ever funny

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    Lmao did they have no idea who he was when they booked him? Did someone hire him as a joke? I don’t get why he was even there.

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      There are a quite a lot of nursing and medical admin staff in healthcare who are rabidly antivax. At least in America, so I assume it’s at least partially true in Canada to. I wonder if that had something to do with this clearly terrible pairing of organization and washed-up clown ‘comedian’.

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    Why can’t people just leave trans folks the fuck alone? Why are they all so obsessed? It’s really fucking weird and obnoxious.

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      It’s a wedge issue. That’s all that matters to them.

      First, they don’t give a fuck about those people.

      Second, intentional vagueness that can be weaponized. Be as heinous as humanly possible to keep the base talking about it.

      Third, exaggerate issues that moderates care about like bathrooms, sports, and regretted transitions.

      Fourth, ideally for them, the left will talk about all the heinous shit and not address the actual discussions.

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          Class warfare, basically. These “wedge issues” are used to distract and break solidarity within the working class so that the elites can continue to exploit them.

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      Seriously. Like, okay, you think that the whole transgender thing is a fad, or “attention-seeking,” or any other nonsense. Everybody is entitled to opinions, even stupid ones. I guarantee I have some stupid opinions, myself, about things that have no relevance to me.

      But feeling the need to express those opinions, and feeling so strongly about it, and wanting to make legislation for it, and pretending you give two shits about girls’ and womens’ sports when 5 years ago you were talking shit about the WNBA because they were a joke to you, when you will knowingly interact with a trans person once or twice in a year, maybe, in your little podunk town, and since you are talking to them you won’t have an opportunity to use a pronoun for them… well there’s obviously something else at work here.

      It makes it clear it’s just an excuse to hate, because trans people don’t affect them in the slightest.

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        It’s funny. Every time I see someone going on a rant about trans women in women’s sports, I ask them when they started watching women’s sports. I don’t get a response, but I do get a bunch of downvotes. Even on Lemmy.

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          The people complaining about trans in women’s sports don’t watch women’s sports for the sports.

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            Pretty much, which is why they don’t watch women’s sports except things like beach volleyball.

            They tend not to be big WNBA fans.

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                And would you throw a shit fit if a trans woman played on a women’s hockey team? Because those are the people I’m talking about.

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                  My son started playing hockey when we was 5. There were an essentially equal number of girls and boys across the teams in our league with many hundreds of players across all the teams in all of the associations in the league. As they got older the number of girls started to drop off. Through U13 and into U15 the boys went through puberty and on average got bigger, stronger, faster, and more aggressive. In U15 we were down to 3 girls on our team. Going in to U18 we will have one. Some of the girls lost interest in hockey. Some left because they couldn’t compete at the same level as the boys. Our best girls went on to play girl’s hockey where they would have a more even playing field playing against other girls.

                  No, I don’t, “throw a shitfit” when I see a male athlete playing against female athletes (and frankly, labeling anyone who doesn’t agree with you as, “throwing a shitfit” completely devalues your position) but I do understand why those female athletes who choose to play female sports because they want a more even playing field and to play against other female athletes might see it as unfair to be forced to compete against a male athlete.

                  I absolutely believe in social equality for everyone but identifying as a woman socially and being female are two very different things.

                  (I’m happy to discuss this but if you start hissing and spitting about my being a TERF or a transphobe I will ignore you and block you and never give you or your opinions another thought.)

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      Honestly I think it’s just because people are mean and want someone to bully and trans people aren’t quite as protected by society as other marginalized groups yet so they’re the easiest target. Plus probably from some people it’s fear that if other people are allowed to be who they are then they themselves might realize they aren’t the perfect little cis straight christian they want to be seen as.

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        My first thought in situations like this is that maybe he secretly wishes he were a she. It’s true just often enough that I think it’s worth considering as an option.

        And honestly, I don’t care if it’s true or not. If, whenever a public figure publicly tries to humiliate or demonize some minority group, public discourse immediately starts talking about whether said public figure secretly is, or wants to be, a member of said minority group, then it serves as a deterrent for others wanting to humiliate or demonize minority groups.

        A) You’re in the closet and don’t want people to know? Then don’t ridicule people who came out of the closet.

        B) Oh, you’re not in the closet and don’t want people to think you are? What a coincidence. Also, don’t ridicule people who came out of the closet.

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          While what you’re saying comes from the right place, it can also be dangerous. That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.

          I do think it’s more common for gay than trans, and sometimes has a grain of truth. But much of the time people are just assholes looking for someone to bully and hate.

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            That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.

            Probably a dumb question, but how so?

            I just see it as beating the bully with their own stick. I can’t imagine how anyone would see that and conclude that the bully’s victims are somehow to blame. Probably lack of imagination on my part, so help me out.

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              I think the way you applied it showed some nuance, as you talked about it in non-absolute terms. However, when applied broadly it can be harmful.

              If we always assume that homophobes and transphobes are queer and trans, then we assume that queer and trans folx are the ones hurting themselves. It’s a small jump from there to say that closted lgbtq people are the source of lgbtq people’s trauma, which is both harmful and false.

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                Too many times some shitty person that blamed gays for everything and wanted to rule against them ended up “by mistake” in some party with a dick in his ass.

                That doesn’t mean there aren’t actual bastards that hate anything they don’t understand.

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      I can understand if older people are confused by trans issues. That seems fair. I mean, just a few decades ago, people hardly even mentioned them unless they were making a joke.

      When it comes to hate, though, I’m with you. At the end of the day, these are still PEOPLE we’re talking about. If they’re doing something you don’t approve of, then just don’t do it yourself. It doesn’t get any easier than that. No hatred required.

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      I believe he peaked at “making copies…” on SNL. Deuce just sped up the downhill roll

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          Yeah, that was particularly bad habit of SNL back then. They hit upon a mildly amusing joke and then just beat it to death by doing it over and over when it was barely a little funny the first time.

          It’s a wonder they didn’t create a “making copies” movie with how they were back then.

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            On the other hand, sometimes those movies were surprising.

            Remember that The Blues Brothers was a one-joke SNL sketch, as was Spinal Tap.

            From that era, the Wayne’s World movies weren’t high art, but they were pretty funny.

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              Wait! Spinal tap wasn’t an SNL sketch.

              It was a sketch on something called “The TV Show” according to wiki.

              It says they worked on a pilot for The TV Show, which had spinal tap as one of the sketches.

              I guess it still started as a sketch so you are right in your point that sometimes these things start as nothing more than that but it wasnt SNL. Although the cast have all been on SNL at some point.

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      A Bigoted C list celebrity riding on the coat tails of his friends pees on the grave of a child killed by a lynch mob at midnight on a full moon while wearing black face and is stuck by lightning while making eye contact with his 15 year old mtf trans athlete niece he kidnapped to sell to child sex trafficers and they Freaky Friday switch bodies! Will The Bigot learn life’s not so easy or trendy after Republican elective officals publicly attack him and he recieves dozens of credible death threats, and thousands of rape threats? Will he discover trans people just want to exist, and culture shock isn’t a great reason to want to harm people you don’t even know? Find out this summer, in THE BIGOT starting Rob Schneider and that guy from King of Queens, with a cameo appearance from Adam Sandler as a man in a 30min uninterrupted Pringles Comercial in the middle of the film for no reason, this summer at limited release locations in exclusively rural areas four to five hours away from you!

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    I’ll never forgive Adam Sandler for keeping Rob Schneider vaguely relevant by letting him ride his coattails for the last 30 years. “Makin’ coppppieeesss” stfu you bigoted hack.

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    The first rule of comedy is, “Know your audience.”

    It’s clear he did this for some other reason. I’m assuming he is just starved for attention.

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    dude isn’t even funny in the first place. he can’t do a Dave Chappell. Pander to the bigoted masses with a modicum of talent. Now if Dave Chappell wasn’t a pos he could easily be the funniest man in comedy instead of a fringe washup but here we are. Used to love them both for their niech humor but lets be honest Rob was only ever funny cause he was proped up by mid Adam Sandler scripts.

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      I went to see Rob Schneider perform comedy round 2015. Tickets were free for a Saturday night. It was at 80% capacity, which is unusual since it’s always sold out.

      He was pretty rough and attempted to be edgy. He already had gay jokes and there was polite laughter, but nothing compared to the professional comedians who opened for him.

      Honestly I thought he’d quit after a few years.

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        blame adam sandler.

        Hes been clinging to Adam Sandlers career and been artificially buoyed by it for over a decade.

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      Why is Dave chappell is a POS? Did he do something awful? I didn’t follow him because I don’t find his jokes funny, it’s mostly complaints or trash talk.

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        His shows are pretty much him making fun of trans people and whining bc people call him on his shit for doing nothing but making fun of trans people.

        Here’s some excepts from The Closer in 2022. I watched this begrudgingly to prove to a buddy of mine that he was, in fact, being transphobic (said buddy is no longer buddy), and I haven’t watched anything of his shit since but it’s probably just him whining even more now:

        • Every time I come out onstage, I be scared. I be lookin’ around the crowd, searching. For knuckles and Adam’s apples to see where the threats might be coming from.

        • And then she hikes her skirt up and she pulls a real live, meaty dick out!

        • If I was honest, I wouldn’t have fallen for it. I’d have just looked at the picture like, “Look at that big chiseled jawline, that big thick Joe Rogan neck. Is that a dude? Is your daughter a man?” Can’t say that shit. It’s really annoying.

        • trans-bitch from the picture.

        • A couple of more drinks and these fellows are gonna start asking her for some pussy, she might not have.

        • I was careful to call her a bitch, ’cause I didn’t want to blow her cover.

        • “Well.” I am a girl now, n*gger. You must treat me as such.

        • Gender is a fact.

        • Now… I am not saying that to say, that trans women aren’t women. I’m just sayin, that those pussies that they got… You know what I mean?

        • I’m not saying it is not pussy, but that’s like Beyond Pussy or Impossible Pussy. You know what I mean? It tastes like pussy but that’s not quite what it is, is it? It’s not blood, that is beet juice.

        And here’s what the actual goat comedian who had a lasting impact in the industry beyond a mediocre skit series in late 90s Comedy Central and one movie might retort to Chappelle

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          You wouldn’t even need to change that many words from the Carlin interview for it to be 100% accurate to today. Andrew > Dave, Jewish > Black. Done.

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            That was… The point though? He thinks trans women aren’t women. That was like a full third of the show’s transcript, and I even left some off

            So what do you view as the point of saying all these things or the point of the show itself?

            I guess the point was about the one token trans person he deemed worthy of his respect (who killed herself, probably unrelated) bc she was totally fine with him making fun of her identity so that makes it ok to just dead gender her after talking about how he pretty much bullied her and she took it bc of his position in the industry so that makes it ok to just degrade whole group of people

            Or something

            Go off though if you wanna defend transphobia I guess

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                Do you think trans people think those jokes are not that bad?

                It seems more like you don’t care that they’re hurtful.

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                  Chappelle makes fun of everyone, sounds like you’re just mad because this time it was about your.

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                I watched The Closer. It is in fact that bad. I’m not giving him the time for anything else

                Idk why that’s the argument his defenders make, that we wouldn’t criticize it if we watched it. Maybe you’re skinnermeming yourself. “I can’t be wrong it’s the trans supporters that are wrong!”

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                  Especially when the people who watched it criticized it.

                  Of course, some people posting refuse to even believe that.

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        He insults transgenders in routines and bitches about people calling him out for it. He also throws out stupid stereotypes about various other groups but they aren’t generally direct insults like with trans people. He tops it off with complaining about cancel culture cause apparently he can insult and call other groups out for just living their life, but if somebody calls him out on that crap it’s bad.

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    What’s up with all these washed up celebrities coming back to the spotlight just to make an ass of themselves?

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      He’s been on this tip for a long while, supporting Ron Paul and being anti-vax. Last Week Tonight did an episode on Vaccines, and he shows up in a no longer valid comparison of RFK Jr on the left, Alex Jones wherever he fits in, and even this guy. I remember him also calling for Ron Paul 2012, but doesn’t seem to be from this one, so hopefully I’m remembering that right.

      Still, he’s been libertarian and antivax for a long time, and those communities have been heavily aimed at by fascists for recruitment.

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      They were always an ass. That’s the secret.

      Nowdays, we just have more visibility into this shit than we did “back in their day”.

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        Not even necessarily more visibility, go back 20 years and this kind of stuff was popular. Go back another 5 years and anti-gay humour was also still popular. It wasn’t even considered anti-gay because anti-gay was the default option, so it would have just been called “gay jokes”.

        Though it makes me wonder what is considered normal today that will be seen as problematic in a decade and popularly opposed in two.

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        Sure, if they were done in a way that was actually funny to a reasonable person. If statements are just insults then they were never jokes, the problem is that you guys dont even allow people to make fun of particular groups, you start clutching your pearls and gasping. You guys went from the cool guy in the 90s to being super lame.

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          What sort of “reasonable person” would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?

          Which “cool guy” comedians in the 90s told such jokes? Can you name them?

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            Here is an example

            Trans jokes were not relevant in the 90s. What I am talking about is how in the 90s the general left side was the side that was funny and would tell any joke and the right was the more religious and pearl clutching, now the sides have reversed and you guys the are lame ones.

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              Your example is a joke talking about how it’s a racist word. Which is not what I asked you to show me. Also, that video was from 8 years ago, not the 90s. So how does that support your point?

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                That is an example of the joke being funny when teh n word is used. And yes, the aspect of the N word being racist would be central role for when it would be used in a joke. That guy did it in a hilarious way and I defend his use of it to answer your first comment.

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                  This is what I said:

                  What sort of “reasonable person” would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?

                  And then you provided me a joke (again, not from the 90s like you were talking about) which criticized the word. So I think you proved my point. Racist jokes aren’t funny and neither are other bigoted jokes.

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        Or… the crowd is soft and cant handle basic critique from a comic. Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.

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          Any community can be criticized, but the criticism should be coming from within. Eddie Izzard can make trans jokes, but Rob Schneider doesn’t have an interesting perspective to share. When Ricky Gervais roasted the audience of the 2020 Golden Globes, he did it as a fresh insider.

          Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.

          Who’s “foaming at the mouth”? I’m cringing at how lame Rob Schneider is. I don’t want to be in the same room as him because I’ll get second hand embarrassment.

          Outsiders always have the most basic, over spoken take on shit. If you want a non political example, take every comedian who flies into to NJ to do a show in NYC and decides to make a joke about how bad NJ smells. While it true that they did smell something bad on the ride in, but that’s hardly representative of NJ.

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                Agreed! And that makes you lame, boring, and illogical.

                Just dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to, that would be super bad.

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                  Are you suggesting religion and being trans are the same thing?

                  Because that means you either think both are inherent or both are a choice. So which is it?

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                  dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to

                  You’re right. Child molestation isn’t a laughing matter. Hard mode, figure out which one I’m referring to.

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      Are you kidding? It’s a comedian’s job to read the room and tell when their set isn’t landing for shit and change tactics on the fly. Maybe he’s got his own shit niche but he should learn the basics of tact if he wants gigs.

      It’s not the audience’s fault when a comedian bombs. It’s his own damn fool self.

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        I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a “boo” according to the article writer.

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          Hospitals of Regina Foundation issued a “sincere and unconditional apology” for Scheinder’s comments during his set, which occurred at their Four Seasons Ball. Attendee Tynan Allen told the CBC that “it was just very apparent how uncomfortable everyone felt and how unacceptable the things he was talking about were.”

          Maybe read the article along with the headline.

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              Your previous comment:

              I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a “boo” according to the article writer.

              The article you didn’t read along with the thing I just quoted that you apparently also didn’t read:

              Attendee Tynan Allen told the CBC that “it was just very apparent how uncomfortable everyone felt and how unacceptable the things he was talking about were.”

              It sounds more like you don’t want people to have found him offensive. But they clearly did.

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                You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you? There is a news article(s), so they appologized, has happened literally thousands of times, and then there is a quote from a person claiming a thing, literally has happened millions of times. Show me the clip and that is actually a useful thing, artles are literally useless.

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                  24 days ago

                  You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you

                  Nope. Here’s me admitting I was wrong about something earlier today:

                  https://lemmy.world/comment/10510117

                  And there are, I am sure, Rob Schneider routines on YouTube and I doubt he decided to only tell trans and antivax jokes on this occasion, so you’re free to find out for yourself. I have a feeling you’ll decide they aren’t offensive no matter what they are though.

                  Incidentally, even Republicans find him too offensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMxbyf5I_GE