A California company is advertising ‘tactical response’ Tesla Cybertruck upgrades for police cruisers, including shotgun racks and sirens.
My first thought was the polygonal cars from Perfect Dark’s Chicago Streets level
I cant wait to see a cop fail to catch some Redneck driving the king of all shitboxes because the cop is driving a cybertruck and its litely drizzling outside.
“Call off the chase, suspect drove onto sand.”
I am just sitting here looking at all you people upset about government waste and thinking about the crap I see every day working for a company that is primarily a government contractor. The river of dirty money.
Just this week alone, and this is Thursday, I told a state employee PE that his spec calls for a part no longer manufactured and if he doesn’t update his spec he is going to get whatever I find on eBay and he said he doesn’t care. Tens of millions of dollars project and this guy is having me put in used parts on a new system.
As a PE, fuck that guy, that’s fucked up.
Maybe but it isn’t uncommon. This can’t be news for you. You know the game.
Government puts out the bid. Some shitheads like Jacobs or Parsons grab it up. They recycle some decade old spec. Subcontract it out to 3 companies who subcontract it out to 8 companies and so on until 90 different companies are involved with ten guys doing the actual work.
And now everyone is trying to clone a system from the early 80s. Because no one wants to do engineering, meetings are far easier. The excuse will always be that prudence is a virtue, which might be true but it isn’t the sole virtue.
Private industry now, which has its own problems. I previously worked in water/sewage, so even a recycled design works. The focus was quality for the public, we just had 6 guys doing a 2 man job. I secretly think there are more people than jobs at this point.
Private industry in a different field, it’s all about speed, quality be damned. Luckily I’ve gotten the chance to show quality leads to less time wasted overall.
Still a love of meetings and shit though, private or public. Waste of life time.
The focus was quality for the public,
If I had a nickle for every time someone with a degree in civil engineering told me about electrical stuff or software stuff. Guys think that if it costs more it must be better or even worse that if it is was the norm in their 20s it must be best.
Whatever it’s Friday and I am sick of caring about you people not dying from choleria because some PE want to run their little con.
Lol I’m a mechanical engineer with a lot of experience in software, so maybe that alters my protective a little.
It’s a beautiful Friday, enjoy.
said he doesn’t care
said
Please tell me that this was in writing and not actually verbal. And if it was, CC that to everyone now who’s going to blame you later when it all goes horribly wrong.
We all know, everyone knows. You think this is atypical? And yeah I sent my email and copied everyone I was supposed to. Nothing happens. I wrote up a nice one pointing out that these parts are no longer manufactured and as a result I will have to buy used and long run this is hurting the operation team. Even suggested a list of alternative parts. His response? “Rejected, follow spec”. No exaggeration here. So much for mutual respect. 3 word response to another engineer bringing up major project concerns.
I don’t drink tap water when I am in or around Toronto ON. There is a reason for that, I have seen how the sausage is made. Sent a system there I want to say 6 months back with a PLC from about 2002. Whole system was full of used parts, as I explained in my email.
Arizona, California, New York City, Toronto, parts of Florida, Sussex County New Jersey, Dubai, Oregon, and UAE off the top of my head. I am sure I am forgetting plenty. Places where I have sent brand new pieces of equipment with used parts inside it and I warned the guy running the project that this was going to happen if they didn’t update the spec and they didn’t care.
I will laugh my ass off when this thing breaks down and catches on fire during their “tactical response” after someone throws a water bottle at it.
I hope they explode
battery fires are not at all common in electric vehicles. this is propaganda
On this planet, we have a concept called ‘humor,’ which involves exaggeration and absurdity for the purpose of getting a laugh. I hope this comes to your own world someday.
repeat falsehoods often enough and people believe them, even if you originally mean them as a well-intentioned and obvious joke
Sorry… are people repeating the falsehood that Cybertrucks catch fire if you throw a water bottle at them?
no but they ARE repeating the falsehood about battery fires being likely or common: https://lemmy.world/comment/10496586
(which is something your joke implied)
Or I implied that the Cybertruck is a badly-constructed piece of shit.
you may have INTENDED to imply only that, but you did imply both unfortunately. I agree with you on the cyber truck part, but I deal with a lot of slightly more rural folks and the big fear RN with electric vehicles is somehow battery fires. which is crazy since they don’t happen anywhere near as often as gas vehicles. so I’m just trying to say we should be careful to avoid that particular cliche (the battery fire part) since it misleads people
The first casualty of those battery fires is probably going to be someone handcuffed and locked in the back seat.
I’m going to laugh my ass off when someone figures out how to track them all in real time, and shares it on a publicly accessible website.
Surely with their budgets and current level of militarisation, US police departments could afford real APCs/light infantry vehicles rather than this mall-ninja tacticool cosplay garbage.
They already do.
This is a pseudo kickback, something to fluff elons ego
does crime in a rain storm or up a sandy incline
The cops:
On a related note how come criminals in Gotham City don’t just do crime during the day time?
They’re criminals, not monsters.
I’d be more worried if they switched to old white tacomas. switch to persistent car chases. Never speeding, just following along waiting for you to run out of fuel. Oh you going off road? That huge dent on the roof is when it rolled over back in '03. I got 2 jerry cans my partner can pour while still driving.
I like that, looks pretty badass
Adding the “troll” tag to your profile is a wonderful thing I learned I could do
How do you do that?
Well good for you
(on boost for Lemmy) go to their “about me”, tap the three dots at the top, tap “add tag”. Now whenever I see this person’s comment, I see [Troll] next to their name. It’s hilarious, since they’re such an active lil fella
With the all-wheel drive Cybertruck’s current $79,990 price, it stands to reason the combined taxpayer cost for a vehicle and new UP.FIT features could easily top $90,000. <
I’d be pretty upset if my municipality was set to dump 100k on this trash.
They’re gonna waste that money anyway. At least the cybertruck is dangerous enough that a few cops might die as a result.
And can you really put a price on that?
What else do you expect local governments to spend the opiate settlement money on, rehabilitation?
Don’t forget all those assets they seize.
And you’d have to ask what makes it a good police vehicle. An electric vehicle probably makes Sense, but I’m not sure there’s anything else about it that does. Certainly not the price tag.
Idk. Cops can spend all day in their cruisers and blow through tons of fuel/power during a high speed chase. The EV would also have to power all the electronics on the cruiser including lights, sirens, radios, their laptop thing. Battery capacity might not be able to power the cruiser long enough. Especially if the crusier works a day and a night shift with different officers. Last thing a cop wants is back up cannot arrive because they are charging a battery.
You might have misunderstood, but I was saying the fact that it’s an EV is the only part that makes sense for a police cruiser (assuming they have enough to rotate them out while charging it can schedule that for breaks). Nothing else about the cyber truck makes sense.
if they’re anything like the ICE cruisers… they’re dropping another shitload in up grades. custom-built gun vaults, as well as other specially-built storage … first aid, extra handcuffs. leg cuffs. Kiddie cuffs. flex-cuffs. evidence collection. Road safety stuffs. Flashlights. speed radar thingies. rolls of printer paper for citation printers. Cameras. spare uniforms. Condoms for the badgebunnies. extra batteries for radios. extra batteries for flashlights. batteries for cameras. extra uniforms. all sorts of bullshit paperwork and forms that only get filled out when they come a cross a karen. Door breaching and lock out tools
needless to say, cops keep a lot of junk in the trunk. So much so the cop’s version of the ford explorer (“Police Interceptor Utility”) actually only has a special suspension to handle the extra weight, and 2 rows of seating instead of 3 to accommodate the entirely-custom storage rack.
oh. you thought they were talking about body armor… naw. They get APC’s for that.
Are you a former cop?
sounds like he either worked in ICE or kitted the vehicles.
I think he meant ICE as in ‘internal combustion engine’ vehicles, because I’m reasonably certain ICE doesn’t do evidence collection or write citations with printers. I think ICE also handles karens quite differently.
There is also the extra radio, sirens, lights, and some have built in radar and plate scanning cameras. I’m pretty sure there are extra batteries and a stronger alternator to keep systems powered and ensure engine starts if auxiliary power is drained.
Different crusiers also have different set ups. Some are normal patrol cars while others have K-9 accomadations, shield and extra defensive gear, pursuit intervention tools like spikes and stop sticks. Cops use such a wide variety of tools that one crusier can’t fit every tool for every situation.
They’ve got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant. They’ve got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. They’re a model made before catalytic converters so they’ll run good on regular gas.
Imagine thinking they will only buy one.
Sweet! Outrunning the cops will be super easy if they start using these pieces of shit!
Bit of background on police cars. Mechanically, they’re not made to be especially fast, nor necessarily accelerate very quickly, nor handle particularly well. The police package modifications have more to do with endurance. A cop car isn’t going to do 180MPH, but it’s going to be able to do 110 for way longer than a regular production vehicle. A alot of that comes down to extra cooling: engine, transmission, power steering. Cop cars have steel wheels because they bend instead of shattering, and you can still drive on a bent wheel that holds air.
Does the Cybertruck scream “reliable and high endurance”?
Police vehicles also need to be generally multipurpose, to carry weapons, first aid, other gear, and detainees as necessary. This means they need to have enough room in the back seat for a partition, and accessible cargo space so that any particular thing can be quickly accessed. I can’t speak to the back seat of a Cybertruck, but that silly body line at the front of the bed makes a huge part of its cargo space useless. If you want to access stuff that’s up there, you’re going to have to climb in the back and crawl over everything, or unload a bunch of shit that’s in the way, like me looking for the fucking mayonaisse in my refrigerator after my wife has jammed it way too full of other shit. Maybe a Cybertruck could stand in for a State Police car that runs the interstates instead of a Dodge Charger. Maybe.
Ever noticed how lots of police departments label their cars in very low contrast lettering? That’s so they can blend into traffic without being instantly noticeable as a police car. I think it’s obvious what I’m pointing out here.
I also don’t think that a pure electric vehicle would ever be used for actual police work. Having to stick it on a charger for an hour, at least once a day, takes the vehicle and its driver out of service for much longer than just filling up a gas tank. Yeah, you might be able to coordinate the charging with “paperwork time,” but it’s still something worth considering.
tl;dr: The Cybertruck is the worst police vehicle any department could ever choose.
All spot on!
Story: Some idiot company is trying to sell these things.
Lemmy: LOL, cops are idiots!
Who says anyone is purchasing this?!
Ever noticed how lots of police departments label their cars in very low contrast lettering? That’s so they can blend into traffic without being instantly noticeable as a police car. I think it’s obvious what I’m pointing out here.
you mean that automatic siren built into the body paneling isn’t gonna help them blend in?
Particularly given that the design quality houses a whole slew of critically bad design choices.
Like shock absorber brackets and axel mounts that can’t handle simple offroad loads.
I am seriously looking forward to videos of some poor sucker trying to pull a PIT maneuver
In murica… Cops pit themselves.
What?
I’m imagining the cybercop bouncing off the car they meant to pit and flipping/rolling until the cop is skidding on nothing more than a car seat and holding a steering wheel.
Yes, it’s cartoonish.
Cartoons are great and so is that mental image, thank you for that
I agree, and you’re welcome.
This could be a huge money save. Might cost the city less if they simply bisect pedestrians in police chases instead of paralysing them from the waist down.
Of-fucking-course they are.
Shoulda seen this coming…
All cops should be forced to drive them
EDF patrol car from red faction
“We have an inflated budget and we need to spend every penny of it, even if it’s on dumb bullshit.”
You don’t use it, you lose it!