Newsmax host Carl Higbie went on a tirade on Friday after former President Donald Trump was convicted by a Manhattan jury the day before.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments to cover up extramarital affairs. Trump was concerned the affairs would come to light and harm his presidential aspirations. The Republican freakout has been swift if not predictable. Despite their outrage and indignation, some conservatives insist that being a convicted felon will help Trump’s chances of returning to the White House in November’s election.

During Friday’s edition of Frontline on Newsmax, Higbie demanded congressional Republicans drop everything and go after those involved in Trump’s prosecution.

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    What people in cities? The people that carried out the trial on Felonius Lump?

    Also, just where the fuck does Higbie live? Most Americans live in metro areas; is he one of the 17% that don’t?

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    This disparity really does concern me. Non-MAGA people need to arm themselves. I know, I know. Guns are bad. But fascist tyranny is worse.

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      This is exactly what gun makers want.

      This is not the solution.

      Plus in the end, it’s not about the quantity, but how you use them.

      And we’re not alone in this. There’s the National Guard too.

      Don’t fall for the fear mongering.

      Their “best” chance at doing anything of consequence was January 6 (in quotes because we know how that played out.) What makes you think this time around will be different?

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        Nothing wrong with a contingency plan. Even if it does benefit gun manufacturers. And the National Guard has killed a lot of union organizers and student protestors so it’s not a given they’ll protect you.

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      You would be surprised how many on the left own guns and know how to use them. Also, while military membership leans conservative, they do not tend to like Trump.

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      Hey, hey. This comes from a place of fear and that’s okay, but recognize it for what it is. Buying guns in fear is what gets people hurt. If you choose to buy a gun for the first time, take proficiency courses. Learn the legal responsibilities that come with it. If you’re genuinely concerned, protect yourself in a responsible way. That may or may not be with a firearm. There are many ways to protect yourself. Take martial arts classes for instance.

      This may seem like a wild suggestion, but try therapy. It did wonders for my anxiety. Seriously. I don’t worry as much. I don’t live in fear. I have friends ALL across the political spectrum. We get along fine. We treat each other with love and respect. The news and media drums up fear and excitement for attention. It’s what sells ads.

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        You do you. But perhaps you’re coming from a place of denial. Therapy can help with that too.

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          I won’t rule out your point. It’s good to be pragmatic. But I do know that fear isn’t a good leader. I’ll continue with my therapy. It does help. I recommend it to everyone.

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            Under normal circumstances I think your advice would be appropriate. I just happen to think these aren’t normal circumstances. Sometimes the danger is real and warrants increased vigilance. I’m certainly not suggesting people buy firearms they don’t know how to use, on a whim. I’m suggesting they consider investing time and effort to become proficient with them. It’s not about shooting people. It’s about having a credible deterrent.

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              That’s fair. I think we agree that it’s important to emphasize proficiency and responsibility. It needs to be explicit. Otherwise, it just plays into media extremism.

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                Yeah, don’t count on that poster to listen to you and act responsibly. I do appreciate what you wrote for the rest of the readers, though.

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    That’s cute. I know lots of democrats who love their guns just as much. The difference is we know when to use them and how to properly store them so our kids don’t get mad at their classmates and you know, make mistakes that cost themselves and their classmates the rest of their lives

    🤷🏻‍♂️

    Stay mad and ignorant tho. It’s easier on the rest of us to deal with you when you’re blinded by rage and have had the only solid footing you have on this world knocked out beneath you.

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    Get in there and subpoena everyone. This judge, his daughter, everyone affiliated with anything ever, ever! I don’t care if we stop building bridges and highways and stop funding our government. You fight fire with fire. Otherwise, these Marxists are going to keep doing this.

    You’re advocating against the rule of law and making threatening remarks towards millions of Americans. Like a terrorist. That’s what a terrorist does. Promote violence without technically saying you promote violence why don’t you.

    You have never met America.

    Have you? You wish harm on your country and her people. For god sakes your lord and savior man didn’t even win the popular vote when he was actually elected. What the hell are you smoking?

    “And when he does, I’m gonna sit back, I’m gonna drink a beer, I’m gonna smoke a cigar the size of Cuba and laugh because they earned this one,” he stated.

    Check where you’re buying your cigs mate.

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    I’d like to remind that News Max host that the city that convicted Donald Trump murders 400 people each year with guns.

    Blue cities ain’t trying to pass gun regulations because they’re afraid of the idea of guns. They’re trying to pass gun laws because they have a fuck ton of guns.

    Those aren’t fireworks we hear every night.

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      Conservatives underestimate how much firepower the left has - they just don’t advertise it like it’s their personality. Even strongholds like Texas actually have less guns per household than the national average.

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        I think the chodes that own like 20+ pew pews are all far right. But you can’t use 20 at a time, so I guess that won’t help much. I’d put hard money on odds of much more citizens who’ve actually shot someone before as being non-republicans.

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        What I find funny is that they act like a bunch of hicks with guns is going to charge a tank or have a prayers chance against a predator drone. The party of serving your country and small government always seems to forget the military is part of the government.

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    Gun ownership by party:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/

    48% of Republicans personally own a gun.
    66% of Republicans live in a gun owning household.

    20% and 31% on the Democratic side.

    32% and 42% for Independents.

    https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_affiliations_of_registered_voters

    “number of registered voters by partisan affiliations in states that allow voters to register by party and report those totals publicly”

    So only about 30 states + the US Virgin Islands, so these numbers will be low.

    “45 million registered voters in these areas identified themselves as Democrats.”

    45 * .2 = 9,000,000 Democratic gun owners, and 13,950,000 Democrats living in gun owning households.

    “35.7 million registered voters identified themselves as Republicans”

    35.7 * .48 = 17,136,000 Republican gun owners and 23,562,000 Republicans living in gun owning households.

    “32.5 million registered voters identified themselves as independents”

    32.5 * .32 = 10,400,000 Independent gun owners and 13,650,000 Independents living in gun owning households.

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    Let’s take a step back from that provocation and look at the bigger picture.

    • This is intended to create division and make money (like Frank Reynolds would).
    • Neighbours shooting neighbours or rural folks shooting city people (or the other way around), that won’t lead to any takeover or to any surrendering of power on a larger scale.
    • That’s just terrorism and could (at most) cause chaos and terror.
    • If there actually was domestic violence on a larger scale, it would come down to: who controls the military or which part of the military is on which side.
    • I would avoid meaningless skirmishes e.g. in a suburb of Seattle.

    I’m not saying succumb to bullies, but whatever you do, be smart about it.

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      city

      It’s their fantasy that they’ll go into the ‘city’ to take it over. Let them. Downtown is mostly social services in major cities, maybe some healthcare or a large teaching hospital. They’ll quickly realize that pointing guns at homeless people isn’t very productive.

      The vast majority of people live in suburbs, don’t care about politics, don’t follow the news.

      Revenge fantasies are always stupid. Modern cities are vast tracks of cookie-cutter suburban housing.

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    When the purges in Russia, China, and N. Korea were going on, the only way to survive was to become the biggest ass-kisser. Imagine how they felt. Does that feel familiar, MAGA?

    Liz Cheney has you pegged for what you have let yourself become.

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    This felon doesn’t have any capacity for contrition. He genuinely believes he is above the law. It’s unfathomable to him that he is being held to account.

    There is no doubt in my mind that were he not a former president, a judge would lock him up. Contrition is an important component of the legal system. Felon’s need to understand that their behavior is unacceptable.

    I wonder if a judge could make him bend the knee. “Acknowledge your wrong doing and you don’t need to go to jail.”

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      Prison is ostensibly for either prevention of crime or rehabilitation of criminals (ignoring the American for profit prison system for a moment). This one has proven himself willing to perform crime despite the threat of prison, and has proven himself unwilling to rehabilitate. As you said, proven no capacity for contrition.

      Therefore, the stated reason for prison would have next to no effect on this prisoner. He will not rehabilitate and has proven himself undeterred by threat of punishment. Ergo, sounds like an excellent target for the death penalty, in fact that sounds like the exact sort of person the death penalty was originally instated for. People too dangerous to be left alive that refuse to change their ways.

      Just saying, all the pieces fit.

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        We don’t sentence people based on our feelings about them because it’s impossible to do so in an objective, fair way across all courts. This man has enjoyed an absurd level of luxury/freedoms throughout his life, relative to just about everyone else. Let him rot in prison for the rest of his life. I hope he lives to 100 in there.

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          None of that involved my feelings about him, only facts about how he has acted under his own power. If we were basing this on my feelings about him we’d have been rid of him in 2015. It is a fact that he will perform crimes constantly and it is a fact that he has not shown a shred of remorse or reconciliation even once, ever.

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            I agree with you that he’s a serial criminal. I don’t agree that he should be given the death penalty, unless he’s found guilty of a crime that would warrant that punishment.

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      He can’t. He’s sick , narzissism. He should have professional help trying to fix this. But at his age…

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        people with narcissistic personality disorder very, very rarely go to therapy. its their spouses, kids and employees that come to therapy. not their friends, though, because they do not exist.

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    Oh I don’t have any guns I guess. They can come test this theory on me and my friends, they might be sad at the outcome, well for a couple seconds before they succumb to the darkness.

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      Yeah, I don’t get the obsession over the number of guns. You can make shit in your basement or garage that is going to do a lot more damage than a gun.

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        Ease of use/ ease of access. Any asshole can grab a gun and do something bad with it. It takes a halfway literate asshole to Google someones “cookbook download” and read the pdf. Then take the steps to do anything with it.

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      Newsmax: you city people better be scared because we have all the guns

      Also Newsmax: Gun laws won’t reduce gun violence, cities are full of guns!

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        These people are scared of fucking Seattle and Portland, they’ll fafo real quick if they try to roll into Atlanta, Memphis, or Chicago thinking they’ll be the most well armed

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        Exactly where my head went. Both sides have all the guns, are the most [insert adjective] and that’s why we have guns.

        Gold fuckin medal. In fact it’s a sweep all three medals in gymnastics.

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      I’m really glad that the trump presidency woke up a bunch of my liberal/progressive friends, as for the longest time I was the only one with firearms. Now, it’s like 85% who have firearms. I don’t think the meal team 6 guys know the rest of us are packing a lot more heat now.

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    So he’s saying that because a criminal was tried and convicted for his crimes, they somehow have to take action to defend said criminal even though said criminal most definitely did a whole bunch of crime that he hasn’t even been tried for yet.

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    Does he even know who the hell we are? I’m a new Yorker and I’ve seen through Trump’s facade for decades. Why are people so devoted to this conman?

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      Those people are devoted to the letter R. Trump is living proof that you can actively try to be the most vile person alive and still get republican support.

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      Shows that there are enough people so desparate to be lead, that they’ll follow anyone, as long as they are confident and unapologetic. And then there are the grifters that’ll way anything for clout and money. Trmp supporters have shown themselves to be naive and easily manipilated, so those grifters flock to pander to them.