I just hope it sticks through the inevitable appeal.
This makes me happy.
Get rekt oversized oompa loompa
Trump’s civil trials: Half a billion in fines, lost ability to do business in New York.
Trump’s Jan 6 Federal case: stuck with SCOTUS deciding on presidential immunity by looking at polls in September.
Trump’s Stolent document case: postponed until an inept judge can figure out how to have a trial where one of the exhibits is “stolen plans to assassinat all current world leaders: CIA, do not distribute” without all world leaders catching wind.
Trump’s Georga interference case: Trying to get the other 10 defendants guilty before going after Trump
This was the only case that could have given him prison time before the election. Let’s see the judge screw it up.
Nothing’s gonna happen. He’s just gonna make up some new “ex president/presidential candidate immunity” that prevents some category of person that includes him from going to prison even for state crimes, and his various federal court nominees will see to it that it’s tied up indefinitely.
Ladies and gentlemen - we got him!!!
Finally, I can pop this bottle of Veuve I bought in 2018!
Holy shit.
He’ll appeal.
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He was a former president. The prosecution would never have gone to trial without a watertight case.
Sure, but I still didn’t expect the jury to be unanimous and especially not on all counts. Glad they were though :-)
In NY, even if he’s sentenced to prison, it’s up to the judge’s discretion whether he has to report to prison while awaiting appeal…and we all know he’s going to appeal.
Well here’s hoping this judge is tired enough of Trump’s shit.
I really wonder if the judge will call out Trumps behavior, the multiple gag order violations, etc. and use all that to justify a harsher sentence. One can only hope…
Something something historic trial something decorum something tradition and that’s why he’ll walk free.
We’ll see on July 11th, but most likely it’s going to be some symbolic fine or gesture, but we’re not seeing this geriatric, senile old man who is also a former president, go to prison, where he would likely die as the country faces massive terrorist attacks and uprisings of dumbasses with deadly weapons, no judge in the country would do that no matter their political leaning if they at all took their job seriously and didn’t want to have entire chapters written about them in the coming history books.
House arrest may be an option but that would be seen as a political attack because it would stop him from campaigning and that would go straight to supreme court, which we know how that would turn out. Judges know all this, their hands are pretty much tied.
Sorry but if they have a spine, their hands are most definitely not tied. That’s the problem with the system as it relates to this piece of shit. Everyone makes excuses.
Fuck that. It’s time to show that the rule of law matters no matter who the fuck you are. Maybe if he’s made an example of, Presidents will think twice before breaking the law.
But, I agree that the GOP, probably this judge, the Supreme Court, and Congress — none of them have a spine.
Fuck that. It’s time to show that the rule of law matters no matter who the fuck you are. Maybe if he’s made an example of, Presidents will think twice before breaking the law.
Okay I’m not against this and never said I was, I’m simply saying that this outcome where Trump goes to prison isn’t going to happen and you’re going to have to deal with it. Everyone is. That’s all. You can’t make this happen, our collective voice will not make this happen. People are getting some weird sense of unrealistic entitlement about this verdict.
The world doesn’t work the way we want and if we could all just get that through our skulls we would make better political choices and actually start focusing on what matters which is community action and organization in your local communities and districts, the places that support, prop-up and create the political theater that we wish would go away.
The world is what we allow it to be made as. You are, of course, free to be as defeatist about this as you want. Doesn’t at all mean I can’t want or expect him to sit in prison.
And since when is expecting just consequences considered entitlement?
I, for one, will not abide Trump, Fox News, or any other propaganda machine to eat away at the rule of law just because they or others might think something is unrealistic or unfair. He is guilty of breaking laws — of this and most likely much much more, as the future and trials will ideally prove. It’s long past time he pays for it.
Why are we so sure that Trump supporters are going to start major terrorist attacks and riots etc? Sure there will be some stragglers here and there but in general they are too stupid and too lazy to even start organising. If January 6th would have been prepared correctly on side of the police force, ie actual riot police present instead of beat cops and doormen, it would have been over in 10 minutes. If they were truly able to start shit, yesterday’s conviction should have triggered them already. It really shouldn’t keep Trump out of jail when the fear is that a Walmart fat guy in camo might shoot up a Starbucks.
I’m saying that people in positions of leadership, from judges to attorneys are not going to want to take that chance and be the ones responsible on even the remote chance that there’s any kind of civil unrest. This is regardless of the actual chances of anything happening, it’s about liability not probability.
I don’t understand what you mean. They wouldn’t be liable or responsible if they just did their job.
They aren’t the ones who would instruct people to riot or do terrorism, which would make them liable.
To construct a liability or responsibility out of their duty is what the fascist side would try to do, so I have to assume you’re one of them?
So far I am not under the impression that the government would not do what needs to be done. I think it’s obvious that 99% of Trump supporters are just talk, and mainly talk in anonymity on the internet.
Everyone likes to circlejerk about revolution or whatever, but for 99.9% of people in developed countries, life is too good to put it on the line.
and didn’t want to have entire chapters written about them in the coming history books
So what you’re saying is he’s definitely going to prison.
If your hands are tied by the corruption of others, make them do the corruption, don’t just preemptively do it for them.
That and the judge is probably terrified of having his house firebombed.
This is exactly why Judges have been so lenient on him. None of them want to go from country clubbing to having firsthand knowledge of the witness protection program.
I disagree with that. The judges need to be a bit lenient with him so nobody can say that the judge was biased against him. This was sort of frustrating to those of us who saw the judge as being too nice to Trump, but its now a lot harder to say he was gunning to get him convicted.
Go lenient and still listen to Republicans still say he was biased? Why care at all what Republicans say at this point… they have no morals.
Idk Trump was literally attacking this judge’s daughter.
Any other person would’ve been held in contempt.
Even a mere 6 months would be enough.
Don’t know about that, judging by the show Delocated, the witness protection program looks fun. Your own skins bar!
Sadly “justice has prevailed” is a little premature, because he probably won’t do any time and will just have to pay a fine; and probably a mediocre one at that. Justice would be him serving the rest of his life in prison, but that probably won’t happen.
Cool! Does this mean he’ll be barred from presidency?
Ready for nothing to happen.
Sweet, but let me know when anything actually comes of it.
Who he definitely paid to get an abortion that he had a sycophant take the heat for.
To find out what rules he broke for each guilty verdict, search “trump rule 34”
