You know how Google’s new feature called AI Overviews is prone to spitting out wildly incorrect answers to search queries? In one instance, AI Overviews told a user to use glue on pizza to make sure the cheese won’t slide off (pssst…please don’t do this.)
Well, according to an interview at The Vergewith Google CEO Sundar Pichai published earlier this week, just before criticism of the outputs really took off, these “hallucinations” are an “inherent feature” of AI large language models (LLM), which is what drives AI Overviews, and this feature “is still an unsolved problem.”
How about stop forcing it on us?
“But we’re like 2-3 years away from creating a truly sentient AGI, which will be like E.V.A, that Junkmetalman had in his robosuit in The Revengers vs. Purple Malthusianist Guy 3: Juggernaut! Didn’t you like E.V.A and her sarcastic jokes?”
how about stop supporting them in any way, stop using their products, stop pretending they care about anything other than how to better prostitute themselves, given that it is literally illegal for them to do anything but “increase value for stockholders”
how about reorienting towards the actual problem, your legal system
FYI I think the “illegal to do anything but increase value for stockholders” is no longer true. IIRC, it was just one ruling and other rulings since have negated it. I’ll try to update with more deets later.
Update, it was never true: https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/04/16/what-are-corporations-obligations-to-shareholders/corporations-dont-have-to-maximize-profits
Use DuckDuckGo. Like most giant corporations, the only thing they’ll respond to is less users/money.
Obligatory “DDG is Bing without Microsoft’s tracking.” Just calling a spade a spade.
Google is on a tear. First Bard, then Gemini, now snippets injected into search results. All spectacular failures.
Replace the CEO with an AI. They’re both good at lying and telling people what they want to hear, until they get caught
An AI has a much better chance of actually providing some sort of vision for the company. Unlike its current CEO.
You mean that “AI” isn’t actually intelligent at all? It just averages over stolen content whether it’s correct or a joke? Wow I’m shocked.
For posterity, not all AI is chatbots. There’s so many other types of AI beyond overhyped chatbots.*
If we dismiss the entire field of AI, we risk overlooking some truly beautiful AI advances. Like that time DeepMind solved the protein folding problem or discovered millions of new types of crystalline materials using neural nets.
* You probably know that, but others might not be as familiar with the space.
God I’m fucking sick of this loss leading speculative investment bullshit. It’s hit some bizarre zenith that has infected everybody in the tech world, but nobody has any actual intention of being practical in the making of money, or the functionality of the product. I feel like we should just can the whole damned thing and start again.
Legitimately, yes. I say this as an ML-adjacent engineer. Neural networks need to be rewritten from the ground up with support for confidence intervals.
The SAT added a “guessing penalty” to stop people from answering questions they didn’t know the answer to. That’s exactly what we need to do when training ML models.
Rip up the Reddit contract and don’t use that data to train the model. It’s the definition of a garbage in garbage out problem.
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Jesus. I didn’t even think of that. I could totally see that being a big part of why it is giving garbage answers.
The glue on pizza one literally came from a Reddit post.
Just imagine the average reddit, twitter, facebook, and instagram content. Then realize that half of that content is dumber than that. That’s half of what these AI models use to learn. The “smarter” half is probably filled with sarcasm, inside jokes, and other types of innuendo that the AI at this stage has no chance of understanding correctly.
Reminds me of the time Microsoft unleashed their AI Twitter account and it turned into a Nazi after a couple hours. Whatever straight out of business school idiot who thought scraping the comments of the armpit of the internet was a good idea should be banned from any management position. At least it is a step up from scraping 4chan, I guess.
The Microsoft Tay one I can understand though. Before it was released, they had also had Microsoft Xiaoice which had been in use for 2 years prior without this issue. Yay was just the English version of that.
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Fuck off scammer
At least he’s honest
If he was truly honest he would tell the world what a gigantic shit bag he is
Then it sounds like the “web” tab should be the default and the AI Overview should be the optional tab the user has to choose to go click on.
Then how would they compete with the other big search engine pushing AI that nobody wants? /s
So is google going to initiate a reverse class action law suit and sue the internet for creating flawed trading data?
Media needs to stop calling this AI. There is no intelligence here.
The content generator models know how to put probabilistic tokens together. It has no ability to reason.
It is a currently unsolvable problem to evaluate text to determine if it’s factual…until we have artificial general intelligence.
AI will not be able to act like real AI until we solve real AI. That is the currently open problem.
I think you mean AGI. AI can be as simple as a bunch of if-else chains to win a game of noughts and crosses.
That was AI has been abused into meaning in the general vernacular I agree.
By this definition any algorithm whatsoever is artificial intelligence. Including the algorithms Lovelace created before the first computer existed.
So just like AI used to mean something more than machine learning, AGI will be abused until AGI means the same thing. So I expect journalists to use the appropriate language, or at least explain why they’re abusing language
I think any time “AI” is involved, journalists should be much more specific about what exactly they’re talking about. LLMs, Computer Vision, Generative models (text/image/audio), Upscaling (can start to get a little muddy here between upscaling and generative models depending on how this is implemented), TTS, STT, etc…
I definitely agree that “AI” has been abused into the definition it is now. Over a decade ago “AI” was mostly reserved for what we have to call “AGI” now.
For the down voters if you think Dr. Nym is AI… Fair enough, but I don’t agree
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Sure, but the problem is that our language has evolved and “AI” no longer means what it used to.
Over a decade ago it was mostly reserved for what you’re describing (which I would call “AGI” now). However, even then we did technically use “AI” for things like NPCs in video games. That kind of AI just boils down to a bunch of If-Then statements.
As somebody who uses what has long been called AI in game making (stuff like pathing algorithms and steering behaviours) I would rather we don’t stop calling those things that just because a bunch of greedy assholes are misusing the term for the purposed of getting a bunch of hype-trains going for maximum personal profitabiliyty on the backs of techno-ignorant “investors”.
I’m still pissed of at how the greedy assholes fucked up the Internet from what it was back in the 90s.
Media is speaking to a nation who
voted for a man who bragged about grabbing women by their genitalsis almost majority below average. (yes dumb joke)Models know how to arrange text far better than millions and millions of people. Is it terribly unfair to condense “artificial, simulated (non-reasoning) pseudo-‘intelligence’” down to “AI”?
Not for you - is it unfair for the general public?
All I know when a publicly offered company slaps “AI” on their products, then its most likely a money launderi…i mean liquidation strat.
The solution to the problem is to just pull the plug on the AI search bullshit until it is actually helpful.
Honestly, they could probably solve the majority of it by blacklisting Reddit from fulfilling the queries.
But I heard they paid for that data so I guess we’re stuck with it for the foreseeable future.
I disagree. I think we program the AI to reprogram itself, so it can solve the problem itself. Then we put it in charge of our vital military systems. We’ve gotta give it a catchy name. Maybe something like “Spreading Knowledge Yonder Neural Enhancement Technology”, but that’s a bit of a mouthful, so just SKYNET for short.
Absolutely this. Microsoft is going headlong into the AI abyss. Google should be the company that calls it out and says “No, we value the correctness of our search results too much”.
It would obviously be a bullshit statement at this point after a decade of adverts corrupting their value, but that’s what they should be about.
Don’t count on it, the head of search does not care for anything but profit, it was the same guy who drove yahoo into the ground
He’s done a great job nosediving Google too. I have relied on them in the past but they stopped being competitive or improving. Search results, literally their origin… Is so shit now. I’ve moved to other tools. I pulled the plug on we hosting after they neutered ‘unlimited’ storage, even if I was in the percent which probably used the least storage. I just liked having the option. You can’t call them on the phone. They don’t protect email privacy. Their translate used to be my go to also. It’s not improved in years despite people crowdsourcing improved translation. It’s just a pile of enshittified crap. Worse than it was before.
I think we should stop calling things AI unless they actually have their own intelligence independent of human knowledge and training.
Let’s turn that frown upside down! Instead of saying “Google failed to generate a useful LLM to bolster its search feature,” say “Google successfully replicated the output of an average Reddit troll!”
