• xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    Damn Libertarians, this is making me sort of respect you again. I mean, you’re still all trash… but it moved the needle.

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      No no, they’re just upset he’s going to take their rights. The moment they get a chance, they’ll vote for someone who is willing to take yours. Don’t feel pity or respect, they did it to themselves.

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              I’ve met more than a few libertarians that view an essential role of the government is banning books that mention gay people.

              A lot of libertarians are just Republicans mad the Republican party isn’t fascist enough. Their “small government” ideals often include government functions like making sure everyone worships Jesus.

              FFS, I’ve seen idiots proudly waving the libertarian flag AND a thin blue line flag.

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                Basically they just think the government exists to give them what they want while not making them pay for anything they don’t. Hence why so many of the kids who got indoctrinated in the 90s (seriously… look up the mess that was MTV’s TRL) resulted in “libertarians are just republicans who like weed”.

                That said, libertarianism is an inherently conservative political stance as it so heavily emphasizes “the free market” and “low taxes and low government spending”.

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                  Basically yes.

                  Most libertarians are both profoundly selfish and woefully uninformed about history, theory of government, etc. proud ancaps (which is the loud majority) are dumbasses that swallowed koch propaganda. “I got mine” is the real libertarian credo.

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      To paraphrase the great dril:

      You do not, under any circumstances, “Gotta hand it to the libertarians”

      They are morons who want basically all the same things the republican fascists do. They just want it to happen by magic rather than increasing government overreach and oppression.

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        They want it to happen through corporate control, because it’s not control if it’s business, it’s just good business

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        Yes, plotting to take over there world and leave everyone alone

        Clearly we want a theocratic dictatorship the social conservatives want

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        Haha, thanks, this quote is great.

        I went through a few months talking to self-defined libertarians after the modern resurgence in who couldn’t explain what the difference between libertarianism and anarchism was once anarchism was sociologically defined for them.

        Usually they couldn’t define the difference between libertarianism and the current system they lived inside.

        “No, see, instead of having public school, you would just like get together with your neighbors and friends everyone would pay some money to some teacher you all selected and vetted, and then all the kids would go to that guy’s house and learn from them. But like just your community.”

        So less efficient public school?

        “No, it’s like if instead of firemen, you just got together with your neighbors and you all employed like a few firemen and your group could pay into this fund that-”

        Right, less efficient civil service.

        “But you could control the group better!”

        So like a private club that has to individually manufacturer and manage all of the needs of your neighborhood?

        “No, just like a group that contributes money to the services they need. It’s just way better than taxes.”

        Those are taxes.

        'but you can have guuuns!"

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          I like the ones who say that roads should be privatized and if you have potholes, you and the neighbors should get together to pay to get them filled in.

          Which, of course, a libertarian neighbor in this ideal world of theirs would refuse to do.

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            Except it doesn’t even cover everyone in the neighborhood, so you’re living among half a dozen HOAs on each block that feel no obligation to respect or assist their immediate community.

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        I’ve always said that libertarians are just conservatives that are too cowardly to commit to the bit, your definition is SO much better.