• Lutra@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    [ confirmation bias at play. you have switched to bluetooth. it meets or exceeds all your needs. you don’t see much public indication to the contrary. you figure bluetooth is the best. ]

    1. simplicity the cable just works. no configuration. no pairing .un pairing, figuring why it worked yesterday

    2. Audio quality - bluetooth is lossy. we just were given AptX lossless in 2021 ( another confirmation bias ) “Sounds great to me” “I can’t hear the difference”.
      2 things are both possibly true though: I can’t hear the difference. Other people hear a big difference. this seems impossible to some people. As if their senses are the apogee of human sense.

    3. lag. new codecs lower latency, but lag lag lag. You couldn’t possibly use your device as a synth/music instrument and ‘play’ the lag is far to great. Same with games.

    4. whats the big deal. This is a bias for the plug users - would it hurt to keep it? we’ve always had it. The work is already done. Its already baked in the cake, why you gotta take it out?

    5. Investment - I have really good headphones. I have really good earbuds. Yes there are adapters but they are finicky exactly when you want them to just work. They inevitably break. They often downgrade the sound - I have 3 usb to audio adapters for android that all hiss for no reason.

    The issue is that when the marketers are selling us a ‘clean vision of the future’ they purposefully gloss over the things they are taking away. Then they paint the people who feel pain because of the change as neanderthals who wouldn’t know better if it bit them. When they do know better. They had better (for them) and progress made it worse (for them). To which the marketers generally say - you should be someone else.

    • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      6 months ago

      simplicity the cable just works. no configuration. no pairing .un pairing, figuring why it worked yesterday

      Use the adapter plug as mentioned. You can even just leave it on your normal headphones if you only use 1 pair!

      whats the big deal. This is a bias for the plug users - would it hurt to keep it?

      Hurts waterproofing, phone slimness and design, etc. again, you can just use an adapter to have all the stuff you’re whining about back.

      Investment - I have really good headphones. I have really good earbuds. Yes there are adapters but they are finicky exactly when you want them to just work

      No, you’re either talking out of your ass or buying the cheapest possible cord and being shocked when it doesn’t work right. My $8 adapter has worked for 4 years no problem driving over-ear headphones no issues.

      they purposefully gloss over the things they are taking away

      Nothing was taken away. It’s literally just combined with another port now.

      If you want to be mad at anyone: be mad at the people making headphones with 3.5mm jacks rather than USB-C, as they’re the ones using an outdated port.

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        6 months ago

        Nothing was taken away. It’s literally just combined with another port now. That’s not how either Apple or Samsung adapters work. The converters to a bit more than change the shape of the plug.

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        6 months ago

        Use the adapter plug as mentioned.

        Type C can’t spin 360°. I have a 90-degree 3.5mm jack, which doesn’t create a risk of breaking the port, so I can put my phone in my pocket in any position.

        Hurts waterproofing, phone slimness and design

        Check out the Sony Xperia 10. It’s the smallest phone on the market with a 3.5mm jack, micro SD slot, 5000 mAh battery, and IP68 rating.

        Nothing was taken away. It’s literally just combined with another port now.

        Haha, remember 2000s, when most phones were using proprietary connector for both charging and headphones output? Everyone hated that stuff.

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          6 months ago

          Type C can’t spin 360°

          Headphone jack portion of the adapter can

          Remember the 2000s

          Yeah, because everyone having a different charger is the same thing as an actually UNIVERSAL connector.

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            6 months ago

            I mean that phones had combo port both for charging and headphones. Using adapters was annoying. And if you saying that 3.5mm is obsolete than why newest Macbooks have 3.5mm port?

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          6 months ago

          Literally just get that kind of charger. That $8 one I have is one.

          All you weird-ass fetishists for an old connector keep having the most child-lrvel intelligence “gotchas”

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      6 months ago

      These are all great rebuttals to arguments I never made. Top tier strawmanning 🏆.

      Anyway, there’s a headphone port built into your USB-C port. Use any headphones you want.

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        6 months ago

        I didn’t respond to _any arguments you made. I thought you posed the question ‘why?’